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Show HN: NotCRUD – Hacker News of India

70 points by paraschopra 11y ago

dutchbrit 11y ago
Looks good, I don't get why you called it !CRUD however.
- saaadhu 11y ago
  From http://thenextweb.com/in/2015/09/03/notcrud-is-a-hacker-news-inspired-community-for-developers-in-india/ http://thenextweb.com/in/2015/09/03/notcrud-is-a-hacker-news... PC: “CRUD refers to basic database functions — create, read, update and delete — and in my mind, the acronym describes most poorly built products: a database with a UI slapped on top of it, with no real user experience to speak of. We want to showcase the best of Indian creativity and ingenuity in product development. So we coined the name NotCRUD to describe quality custom-built software and hardware that Indians are capable of building.”
  - linuxkerneldev 11y ago
    > showcase the best of Indian creativity and ingenuity in product development. I genuinely don't understand above. You want to showcase the "best creativity" by showing that you yourself describe as "the Hacker News of India". I think you may have a different understanding of what creativity is than what I have. Also, about this concept of "best of India" and such things, the line that Peter Thiel loves to use comes to mind. The something of somewhere is the nothing of nowhere.
    - chetanahuja 11y ago
      I think there's a place for an India, the location, specific well-maintained tech discussion forum. The original hacker news may not be "officially" specific to any place but in practice it's very clearly of and for silicon valley first and foremost. The valley bias on this HN is natural and organic. Simply because of the location of most of it's audience. You can look at the trends of upvoting and frontpage activity and clearly see how the Pacific timezone affects the activity on this site. I expect an India focused forum to be most active during Indian waking hours and that alone should make it a worthwhile thing to exist.
  - dontmentionit 11y ago
    I never understand the point of what nationality has to do with ingenuinity or creativity. Seems nothing more than marketing strategy to me. And CRUD does not really mean "poorly build products" either. It's just that - Create, Read, Update, and Delete. That's it.
    - paraschopra 11y ago
      It doesn't have much to do. Software knows no boundaries. But the whole point of community, any community, is that a filter can provide incredible focus. And this focus is what can become a catalyst in future for encouragement and motivation. For starting up VWO.com I was hugely inspired by HN. I'm hoping notCRUD can become such a platform for many other Indian engineers where they know interesting stuff is happen ing in a country where many think only outsourcing happens.
  - thrownear 11y ago
    That is quite flawed. and quite honestly one of the dumbest things I have ever read here. You also come across as quite arrogant or entitled when you say that all CRUD applications are poorly built with no 'user experience' whatever that means. >We want to showcase the best of Indian creativity and ingenuity in product development. So we coined the name NotCRUD to describe quality custom-built software... I am an Indian and I am cringing so hard right now! Ouch.
    - paraschopra 11y ago
      In the telephonic interview the reporter paraphrased my words in his own understanding. I didn't say "poorly built products". Obviously there can be well engineered CRUD apps. What I had said that CRUD apps are simple and the platform is meant to showcase and highlight more complex projects.
      - thrownear 11y ago
        >What I had said that CRUD apps are simple.. Still wrong. CRUD apps need not always be "simple". And the whole "to hightlight complex projects" thing is misguided. No one is interested in "complexity"..
        deleted 11y ago
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        rudimk 11y ago
        Well now, we won't know if it's misguided if we don't do it, don't you think?
        rudimk 11y ago
        As far as looking for complexity goes - it's a matter of perspective. People will look for the complex, just as they'd look for the simple.
adarsh_y 11y ago
I remember reading about paraschopra and Wingify on HackerStreet India - an India-centric HN rip-off that didn't work out though paraschopra was pretty active in the early days. Nice to see a corp-backed initiative in this direction. Hope this doesn't suffer the same fate. Although !CRUD isn't another HN (despite the tagline), one reason why HN is so amazing is its unintimidating design which serves the tired mind taking a 10-minute break well. !CRUD gives a less relaxing vibe IMHO.
- notnotcrud 11y ago
  See who posted this topic :) Also scroll (fast) to bottom of NC page.
  - adarsh_y 11y ago
    ...which is why I mentioned him and Wingify ;) I'd been a fan and follower of the company since I read that Wingify had succeeded (in building a good product and converting big clients) as a one man act.
- paraschopra 11y ago
  Thanks for the feedback on design. We used NodeBB and threaded replies is something on our agenda. HN design works really well right now because the new content posted is much greater than the discussions that happen on home page. On notCRUD, opposite is true. Right now we want to highlight each and every discussion that happens because building a vibrant community takes time.
  - adarsh_y 11y ago
    Makes sense, which is why I clarified that notCRUD isn't HN. I'm just overtly skeptical about engaging tech discussions in Indian forums, but this isn't a skeptic's world anymore, so hopefully notCRUD will do well. Good luck!
    - rudimk 11y ago
Tinyyy 11y ago
The online users part of the site is pretty concerning, I wonder if they intend to keep it there? I wouldn’t want to sign up to a site that broadcasts when I am online…
- paraschopra 11y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. I agree that showing online users may not be a good idea. We'll probably disable that soon. Feedback taken.
trumbitta2 11y ago
You may want to rethink the presence of that unreachable footer, given the contemporary presence of infinite scrolling...
- paraschopra 11y ago
  Yep, on our mind. Anyway footer doesn't have much.
YogeeKnows 11y ago
If you don't mind sharing the details, What is the tech stack? Also most of headlines are trimmed off. I have to click on the link just to know what this post is about. Longer headlines should be displayed so people can decide before clicking if they want to read it (There's always the tooltip feature)
- adarsh_y 11y ago
  You can check out the stack on BuiltWith: http://builtwith.com/notcrud.com http://builtwith.com/notcrud.com
- deleted 11y ago
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krishnagoyal 11y ago
There was hackerstreet.in
gnufied 11y ago
I thought http://hackerstreet.in/ http://hackerstreet.in/ was kinda already Hackernews for Indian audience?
- prateekdayal 11y ago
  hackerstreet has lost it's relevance and it's not really maintained anymore. I plan to shut it down sometime soon.
sotojuan 11y ago
Cool idea, but the best part of HN (aside from the content) is how simple the layout and design is. Yours is not complex nor does it perform badly, but I don't get the same feeling. I'd get rid of the infinite scrolling and the column with the "Subscribe" message.
mring33621 11y ago
Thank you! After a quick look, already this post is very cool: http://notcrud.com/topic/220/show-nc-a-i-assisted-code-generation-for-react-skip-boilerplates http://notcrud.com/topic/220/show-nc-a-i-assisted-code-gener... generates react native code from an image! Watch the video!
cubano 11y ago
Nice work...a little busy for my tastes but that could be a cultural thing :) An excellent showcase of your skills I think.
general_failure 11y ago
Like it! I wanted to read the footer of the page (to see what this is powered by) but scrolling down loads more content. (Pressing Esc+Page down simultaneously let me see it).
smhx 11y ago
I'm not able to see the full title of the posts (13" MBP Retina). It is cut off half-way. As a front-page for a HN-style site, that's a serious usability bug that you want to fix. http://imgur.com/DatjKpe http://imgur.com/DatjKpe
- paraschopra 11y ago
  Thanks for the screenshot. We're still iterating on our design.
paraschopra 11y ago
Hello everyone, Paras from notCRUD here. We're Wingify, the company behind VWO.com. Created this forum to aggregate all interesting tech and product thought and projects to emerge from India. Being bootstrapped, we were sick of all the startup news in India being dominated with funding and eCommerce. The real innovative stuff was being drowned and not given enough attention. So our motive is to highlight all of that. We'll also be producing original content. The first original post is about Postman (a popular product from India). Take a look: http://originals.notcrud.com/2015/10/21/postman-fixing-the-api-workflow/ http://originals.notcrud.com/2015/10/21/postman-fixing-the-a...
rajcharaborti 11y ago
It is extensively desi and useful. Coders of Indian SaaS companies are bookmarking it.
dhruvsachde 11y ago
Calling it Hacker News of India, but I'm not able to find any Guildlines or FAQs on your site.

70 points by paraschopra 11y ago

dutchbrit 11y ago

Looks good, I don't get why you called it !CRUD however.

saaadhu 11y ago
From http://thenextweb.com/in/2015/09/03/notcrud-is-a-hacker-news-inspired-community-for-developers-in-india/ http://thenextweb.com/in/2015/09/03/notcrud-is-a-hacker-news... PC: “CRUD refers to basic database functions — create, read, update and delete — and in my mind, the acronym describes most poorly built products: a database with a UI slapped on top of it, with no real user experience to speak of. We want to showcase the best of Indian creativity and ingenuity in product development. So we coined the name NotCRUD to describe quality custom-built software and hardware that Indians are capable of building.”
- linuxkerneldev 11y ago
  > showcase the best of Indian creativity and ingenuity in product development. I genuinely don't understand above. You want to showcase the "best creativity" by showing that you yourself describe as "the Hacker News of India". I think you may have a different understanding of what creativity is than what I have. Also, about this concept of "best of India" and such things, the line that Peter Thiel loves to use comes to mind. The something of somewhere is the nothing of nowhere.
  - chetanahuja 11y ago
    I think there's a place for an India, the location, specific well-maintained tech discussion forum. The original hacker news may not be "officially" specific to any place but in practice it's very clearly of and for silicon valley first and foremost. The valley bias on this HN is natural and organic. Simply because of the location of most of it's audience. You can look at the trends of upvoting and frontpage activity and clearly see how the Pacific timezone affects the activity on this site. I expect an India focused forum to be most active during Indian waking hours and that alone should make it a worthwhile thing to exist.
- dontmentionit 11y ago
  I never understand the point of what nationality has to do with ingenuinity or creativity. Seems nothing more than marketing strategy to me. And CRUD does not really mean "poorly build products" either. It's just that - Create, Read, Update, and Delete. That's it.
  - paraschopra 11y ago
    It doesn't have much to do. Software knows no boundaries. But the whole point of community, any community, is that a filter can provide incredible focus. And this focus is what can become a catalyst in future for encouragement and motivation. For starting up VWO.com I was hugely inspired by HN. I'm hoping notCRUD can become such a platform for many other Indian engineers where they know interesting stuff is happen ing in a country where many think only outsourcing happens.
- thrownear 11y ago
  That is quite flawed. and quite honestly one of the dumbest things I have ever read here. You also come across as quite arrogant or entitled when you say that all CRUD applications are poorly built with no 'user experience' whatever that means. >We want to showcase the best of Indian creativity and ingenuity in product development. So we coined the name NotCRUD to describe quality custom-built software... I am an Indian and I am cringing so hard right now! Ouch.
  - paraschopra 11y ago
    In the telephonic interview the reporter paraphrased my words in his own understanding. I didn't say "poorly built products". Obviously there can be well engineered CRUD apps. What I had said that CRUD apps are simple and the platform is meant to showcase and highlight more complex projects.
    - thrownear 11y ago
      >What I had said that CRUD apps are simple.. Still wrong. CRUD apps need not always be "simple". And the whole "to hightlight complex projects" thing is misguided. No one is interested in "complexity"..
      - deleted 11y ago
        [deleted]
      - rudimk 11y ago
        Well now, we won't know if it's misguided if we don't do it, don't you think?
      - rudimk 11y ago
        As far as looking for complexity goes - it's a matter of perspective. People will look for the complex, just as they'd look for the simple.

adarsh_y 11y ago

I remember reading about paraschopra and Wingify on HackerStreet India - an India-centric HN rip-off that didn't work out though paraschopra was pretty active in the early days. Nice to see a corp-backed initiative in this direction. Hope this doesn't suffer the same fate. Although !CRUD isn't another HN (despite the tagline), one reason why HN is so amazing is its unintimidating design which serves the tired mind taking a 10-minute break well. !CRUD gives a less relaxing vibe IMHO.

notnotcrud 11y ago
See who posted this topic :) Also scroll (fast) to bottom of NC page.
- adarsh_y 11y ago
  ...which is why I mentioned him and Wingify ;) I'd been a fan and follower of the company since I read that Wingify had succeeded (in building a good product and converting big clients) as a one man act.
paraschopra 11y ago
Thanks for the feedback on design. We used NodeBB and threaded replies is something on our agenda. HN design works really well right now because the new content posted is much greater than the discussions that happen on home page. On notCRUD, opposite is true. Right now we want to highlight each and every discussion that happens because building a vibrant community takes time.
- adarsh_y 11y ago
  Makes sense, which is why I clarified that notCRUD isn't HN. I'm just overtly skeptical about engaging tech discussions in Indian forums, but this isn't a skeptic's world anymore, so hopefully notCRUD will do well. Good luck!
  - rudimk 11y ago

Tinyyy 11y ago

The online users part of the site is pretty concerning, I wonder if they intend to keep it there? I wouldn’t want to sign up to a site that broadcasts when I am online…

paraschopra 11y ago
Thanks for the feedback. I agree that showing online users may not be a good idea. We'll probably disable that soon. Feedback taken.

trumbitta2 11y ago

You may want to rethink the presence of that unreachable footer, given the contemporary presence of infinite scrolling...

paraschopra 11y ago
Yep, on our mind. Anyway footer doesn't have much.

YogeeKnows 11y ago

If you don't mind sharing the details, What is the tech stack? Also most of headlines are trimmed off. I have to click on the link just to know what this post is about. Longer headlines should be displayed so people can decide before clicking if they want to read it (There's always the tooltip feature)

adarsh_y 11y ago
You can check out the stack on BuiltWith: http://builtwith.com/notcrud.com http://builtwith.com/notcrud.com
deleted 11y ago
[deleted]

krishnagoyal 11y ago

There was hackerstreet.in

gnufied 11y ago

I thought http://hackerstreet.in/ http://hackerstreet.in/ was kinda already Hackernews for Indian audience?

prateekdayal 11y ago
hackerstreet has lost it's relevance and it's not really maintained anymore. I plan to shut it down sometime soon.

sotojuan 11y ago

Cool idea, but the best part of HN (aside from the content) is how simple the layout and design is. Yours is not complex nor does it perform badly, but I don't get the same feeling. I'd get rid of the infinite scrolling and the column with the "Subscribe" message.

mring33621 11y ago

Thank you! After a quick look, already this post is very cool: http://notcrud.com/topic/220/show-nc-a-i-assisted-code-generation-for-react-skip-boilerplates http://notcrud.com/topic/220/show-nc-a-i-assisted-code-gener... generates react native code from an image! Watch the video!

cubano 11y ago

Nice work...a little busy for my tastes but that could be a cultural thing :) An excellent showcase of your skills I think.

general_failure 11y ago

Like it! I wanted to read the footer of the page (to see what this is powered by) but scrolling down loads more content. (Pressing Esc+Page down simultaneously let me see it).

smhx 11y ago

I'm not able to see the full title of the posts (13" MBP Retina). It is cut off half-way. As a front-page for a HN-style site, that's a serious usability bug that you want to fix. http://imgur.com/DatjKpe http://imgur.com/DatjKpe

paraschopra 11y ago
Thanks for the screenshot. We're still iterating on our design.

paraschopra 11y ago

Hello everyone, Paras from notCRUD here. We're Wingify, the company behind VWO.com. Created this forum to aggregate all interesting tech and product thought and projects to emerge from India. Being bootstrapped, we were sick of all the startup news in India being dominated with funding and eCommerce. The real innovative stuff was being drowned and not given enough attention. So our motive is to highlight all of that. We'll also be producing original content. The first original post is about Postman (a popular product from India). Take a look: http://originals.notcrud.com/2015/10/21/postman-fixing-the-api-workflow/ http://originals.notcrud.com/2015/10/21/postman-fixing-the-a...

rajcharaborti 11y ago

It is extensively desi and useful. Coders of Indian SaaS companies are bookmarking it.

dhruvsachde 11y ago

Calling it Hacker News of India, but I'm not able to find any Guildlines or FAQs on your site.