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Mac to Surface Book: Making the Switch from Mac

2 points by qzervaas 11y ago

boards2x 11y ago
Yea, right. Maybe if it had OS X or Linux on it? I'm sure the hardware is ok, but at least developers need a POSIX compliant environment, and Microsoft does not have anything much to offer these days. It's a new world.
- skc 11y ago
  Developers /need/ a POSIX compliant environment you say? You speak for all of them?
  - mindcrash 11y ago
    For anything else other than .NET development a POSIX compliant environment is highly advantageous over a Windows environment. I speak out of experience.
    - skc 11y ago
      I think any devs making the very unlikely switch to Windows would know what they need to do get their POSIX fix. In any case, this article seems to be rightly aimed at non devs.
      - boards2x 11y ago
        Why would you go this route though? Unless you must do .NET professionally, there's no real reason for devs these days to use anything Windows. It just makes everything much more complicated, and many compromises because of platform readiness of many of the cutting edge projects (everything seems to start today on OSX/Linux).
  - boards2x 11y ago
    That's not the point. This is about people switching to Wintel from MacBook (assuming they didn't buy a MacBook pro just to install Windows). Developer that use Mac/OS X use it because it's a UNIX machine, so moving to not POSIX compliant does not make much sense.
- JohnTHaller 11y ago
  Just as there are lots of different types of OS needs, there are lots of different development needs. I develop in Windows and can't work on the software I build in OS X. Or Linux for that matter.
MaysonL 11y ago
Make the transition? Maybe. Make it now? No. Wait for version 2.0, at least. Read Joanna Stern's review for the WSJ.
- calciphus 11y ago
  This is the fourth generation (fifth?) of the Surface. How many versions do you need?
  - tfandango 11y ago
    SurfaceBook is 1.0, and the subject of this post. SurfacePro is I think what you are referring to, and is on its 4th iteration.
- JohnTHaller 11y ago
  A review of pre-release hardware with a bug that supposedly isn't in production units. This is why it's usually a good reason to wait for reviews of production units of any hardware. Plus the review isn't very well done. "and where are my screen-brightness control keys?" I can see them in the product shot right next to this sentence on the website.

2 points by qzervaas 11y ago

Yea, right. Maybe if it had OS X or Linux on it? I'm sure the hardware is ok, but at least developers need a POSIX compliant environment, and Microsoft does not have anything much to offer these days. It's a new world.

skc 11y ago
Developers /need/ a POSIX compliant environment you say? You speak for all of them?
- mindcrash 11y ago
  For anything else other than .NET development a POSIX compliant environment is highly advantageous over a Windows environment. I speak out of experience.
  - skc 11y ago
    I think any devs making the very unlikely switch to Windows would know what they need to do get their POSIX fix. In any case, this article seems to be rightly aimed at non devs.
    - boards2x 11y ago
      Why would you go this route though? Unless you must do .NET professionally, there's no real reason for devs these days to use anything Windows. It just makes everything much more complicated, and many compromises because of platform readiness of many of the cutting edge projects (everything seems to start today on OSX/Linux).
- boards2x 11y ago
  That's not the point. This is about people switching to Wintel from MacBook (assuming they didn't buy a MacBook pro just to install Windows). Developer that use Mac/OS X use it because it's a UNIX machine, so moving to not POSIX compliant does not make much sense.
JohnTHaller 11y ago
Just as there are lots of different types of OS needs, there are lots of different development needs. I develop in Windows and can't work on the software I build in OS X. Or Linux for that matter.

MaysonL 11y ago

Make the transition? Maybe. Make it now? No. Wait for version 2.0, at least. Read Joanna Stern's review for the WSJ.

calciphus 11y ago
This is the fourth generation (fifth?) of the Surface. How many versions do you need?
- tfandango 11y ago
  SurfaceBook is 1.0, and the subject of this post. SurfacePro is I think what you are referring to, and is on its 4th iteration.
JohnTHaller 11y ago
A review of pre-release hardware with a bug that supposedly isn't in production units. This is why it's usually a good reason to wait for reviews of production units of any hardware. Plus the review isn't very well done. "and where are my screen-brightness control keys?" I can see them in the product shot right next to this sentence on the website.