Yeah, "Java jobs" as a category is going to run from the kids coming out of schools in the Midwest and going to work at an insurance company in Omaha to senior

Yeah, "Java jobs" as a category is going to run from the kids coming out of schools in the Midwest and going to work at an insurance company in Omaha to senior devs at Google. That's a big range, and there're a lot of jobs at the bottom end of it to pull the average down.