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Don't be a dick indeed, work more, so you can earn more and pay more taxes for the immigrants (if they were refugees they would stay whereever help was offered

by tdkl 11y ago

Don't be a dick indeed, work more, so you can earn more and pay more taxes for the immigrants (if they were refugees they would stay whereever help was offered instead of storming to Germany), because those loans won't pay by itself and USA, IMF and the banks surely won't write that off. Right now my country is stormed by them and can barely keep up. Schengen is a joke, same as the EU. This will probably be down voted since Hacker News turned into a "safe space" (which is ironic considering all the whiplash about free speech on the internet around here), so let me just quote a character called Reality on the popular show "South Park": "You're sad that people are mean ? Well I'm sorry, the world isn't one big liberal arts college campus."

legulere 11y ago
So they would stay in Hungary instead which already has more refugees per capita than Germany and is totally overwhelmed? Or in Greece which is in the middle of a crisis itself? How about Lebanon and Turkey where there are more than 10 times as much refugees, where refugees have no perspective of being able to work and where basic needs of life are not guaranteed. Free speech is about the right to express oneself, it has nothing to with people not being allowed to disagree with you.
- hugh4 11y ago
  No, they should stay in fucking Syria. If they're so keen on western values such as democracy and freedom of religion, they should take up arms and fight for them, just like our ancestors did. And if they're not keen on western values such as democracy and freedom of religion, they should stay the fuck out of the west. The right to live in a peaceful, prosperous country is not automatic. For those of us in the west, our ancestors earned that right for us. For those in the Middle East -- well, they need to work hard now to earn that right for their descendants. Is it fair that some are born in Europe and some are born in Syria? No. Is it fair that some are born human and some are born fish? No.
  - vidarh 11y ago
    Most of our ancestors did nothing to "earn that right" for us. The vast majority tried to go about their lives as before. And a substantial number of "our" ancestors were part of messing up Syria and Iraq in the first place, going back to colonial times.
  - comrh 11y ago
    This has to be the most simplistic, nationalistic, view of history I've ever read. Ignoring that throughout history it is extremely common for groups to leave their countries and settle elsewhere when it becomes oppressive, for example America...
    - jmorphy88 11y ago
      It's also extremely common for countries to be conquered by foreign invaders.
      - comrh 11y ago
        Refugees and immigrants are "invaders" now.
programmernews3 11y ago
Just remember to keep paying your taxes, which will increase, and dont complain if your standard of living goes down, your hospitals and schools are overcrowded, or your children cannot afford a tiny apartment.
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by tdkl 11y ago

legulere 11y ago

So they would stay in Hungary instead which already has more refugees per capita than Germany and is totally overwhelmed? Or in Greece which is in the middle of a crisis itself? How about Lebanon and Turkey where there are more than 10 times as much refugees, where refugees have no perspective of being able to work and where basic needs of life are not guaranteed. Free speech is about the right to express oneself, it has nothing to with people not being allowed to disagree with you.

hugh4 11y ago
No, they should stay in fucking Syria. If they're so keen on western values such as democracy and freedom of religion, they should take up arms and fight for them, just like our ancestors did. And if they're not keen on western values such as democracy and freedom of religion, they should stay the fuck out of the west. The right to live in a peaceful, prosperous country is not automatic. For those of us in the west, our ancestors earned that right for us. For those in the Middle East -- well, they need to work hard now to earn that right for their descendants. Is it fair that some are born in Europe and some are born in Syria? No. Is it fair that some are born human and some are born fish? No.
- vidarh 11y ago
  Most of our ancestors did nothing to "earn that right" for us. The vast majority tried to go about their lives as before. And a substantial number of "our" ancestors were part of messing up Syria and Iraq in the first place, going back to colonial times.
- comrh 11y ago
  This has to be the most simplistic, nationalistic, view of history I've ever read. Ignoring that throughout history it is extremely common for groups to leave their countries and settle elsewhere when it becomes oppressive, for example America...
  - jmorphy88 11y ago
    It's also extremely common for countries to be conquered by foreign invaders.
    - comrh 11y ago
      Refugees and immigrants are "invaders" now.

programmernews3 11y ago

Just remember to keep paying your taxes, which will increase, and dont complain if your standard of living goes down, your hospitals and schools are overcrowded, or your children cannot afford a tiny apartment.

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