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> Vest and tie? Lookin' good. No, this really looks genuinely terrible. Never wear a tie without a jacket. http://putthison.com/post/29635680290/q-and-answer-

> Vest and tie? Lookin' good. No, this really looks genuinely terrible. Never wear a tie without a jacket. http://putthison.com/post/29635680290/q-and-answer-when-can-i-wear-a-tie-without-a http://putthison.com/post/29635680290/q-and-answer-when-can-... > The answer is pretty much “I work at a cell phone store.” (vest without jacket is just as bad, except it's "I'm a waiter")

rm_-rf_slash 11y ago
Exception: vest and tie with a stylish hat. Otherwise, yes, a suit is usually mandatory. I didn't expand on it for the sake of making my point. I'm glad some people on HN have fashion sense.
- dllthomas 11y ago
  Jacket, not (necessarily) suit.
dragonwriter 11y ago
> (vest without jacket is just as bad, except it's "I'm a waiter") Pretty much only if it is a black vest with black pants and black tie and black or white shirt.
- cballard 11y ago
  Think of it like this, an order of formality: - Jacket - Tie - Vest Each is a step up in formality, and should not be done without the previous, unless you're Nick Wooster, and you're not.
  - tjr 11y ago
    I've seen people wearing a tie with no jacket; they did not work at a cell phone store, nor did I think that they looked like they did. I've seen people wearing vests (with or without ties) without jackets; they were not waiters, nor did I think that they looked like they were. I'm not sure if these alleged rules you speak of are codified somewhere, but given the context of the conversation (people around me are wearing hoodies and pajamas while I'm wearing a suit), I find it hard to imagine any combination of jackets, ties, and vests being truly inappropriate...
    - dllthomas 11y ago
      If you try something out, and think you look great, and find that others agree, then bin any given rule. But most people, most of the time, are most likely to look best following most rules. Personally, I don't like the look or feel of a tie with no jacket, or a suit with no tie.
peterwwillis 11y ago
There's plenty of ways to wear just a tie or a vest and make it look handsome. It just depends on whether it fits well and matches your outfit. Yes, there is a tendency for it to look like service personnel, so you have to either make it look classier or more casual. https://d29h7ql7qnxkqx.cloudfront.net/pix/blue_coffee2088/men_vest_01.png https://d29h7ql7qnxkqx.cloudfront.net/pix/blue_coffee2088/me... http://cdn12.lbstatic.nu/files/looks/large/2013/04/26/2996907_Burberry.jpg?1366988525 http://cdn12.lbstatic.nu/files/looks/large/2013/04/26/299690... http://image.tin247.com/vnmedia/101121161236-540-334.jpg http://image.tin247.com/vnmedia/101121161236-540-334.jpg http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI2N1g4NDM=/z/6scAAMXQ74JTWkrh/$_1.JPG?set_id=2 http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI2N1g4NDM=/z/6scAAMXQ74JTWkrh/$_...

rm_-rf_slash 11y ago

Exception: vest and tie with a stylish hat. Otherwise, yes, a suit is usually mandatory. I didn't expand on it for the sake of making my point. I'm glad some people on HN have fashion sense.

dllthomas 11y ago
Jacket, not (necessarily) suit.

dragonwriter 11y ago

> (vest without jacket is just as bad, except it's "I'm a waiter") Pretty much only if it is a black vest with black pants and black tie and black or white shirt.

cballard 11y ago
Think of it like this, an order of formality: - Jacket - Tie - Vest Each is a step up in formality, and should not be done without the previous, unless you're Nick Wooster, and you're not.
- tjr 11y ago
  I've seen people wearing a tie with no jacket; they did not work at a cell phone store, nor did I think that they looked like they did. I've seen people wearing vests (with or without ties) without jackets; they were not waiters, nor did I think that they looked like they were. I'm not sure if these alleged rules you speak of are codified somewhere, but given the context of the conversation (people around me are wearing hoodies and pajamas while I'm wearing a suit), I find it hard to imagine any combination of jackets, ties, and vests being truly inappropriate...
  - dllthomas 11y ago
    If you try something out, and think you look great, and find that others agree, then bin any given rule. But most people, most of the time, are most likely to look best following most rules. Personally, I don't like the look or feel of a tie with no jacket, or a suit with no tie.

peterwwillis 11y ago

There's plenty of ways to wear just a tie or a vest and make it look handsome. It just depends on whether it fits well and matches your outfit. Yes, there is a tendency for it to look like service personnel, so you have to either make it look classier or more casual. https://d29h7ql7qnxkqx.cloudfront.net/pix/blue_coffee2088/men_vest_01.png https://d29h7ql7qnxkqx.cloudfront.net/pix/blue_coffee2088/me... http://cdn12.lbstatic.nu/files/looks/large/2013/04/26/2996907_Burberry.jpg?1366988525 http://cdn12.lbstatic.nu/files/looks/large/2013/04/26/299690... http://image.tin247.com/vnmedia/101121161236-540-334.jpg http://image.tin247.com/vnmedia/101121161236-540-334.jpg http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI2N1g4NDM=/z/6scAAMXQ74JTWkrh/$_1.JPG?set_id=2 http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI2N1g4NDM=/z/6scAAMXQ74JTWkrh/$_...