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> The problem with extreme 1 and 3 is that they provide no incentive to increase your contribution which is why "capitalism" is superior to "socialism" in terms
by wobbleblob 11y ago
> The problem with extreme 1 and 3 is that they provide no incentive to increase your contribution which is why "capitalism" is superior to "socialism" in terms of productivity.
That may be true under normal circumstances (you will likely see overall productivity drop once the poor start to starve or freeze to death) but that still leaves the fundamental disagreement whether overall productivity is more important than meeting everyone's needs.
- dmichulke 11y agoEven the starving and freezing should want maximum productivity at the providers of food and heating.
- wobbleblob 11y agoWhat they want at that time is food and fuel. If your children are starving, and someone else's aren't, any belief in fairness collapses. Crime and revolution are the result.
- bko 11y agoBy all counts, global poverty has fallen dramatically due to market economies and globalization. Your hyperbole is unnecessary. http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21578665-nearly-1-billion-people-have-been-taken-out-extreme-poverty-20-years-world-should-aim http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21578665-nearly-1-bill...
- wobbleblob 11y agoI don't remember using any hyperbole, but you are using it. Has global poverty dropped due to unchecked free market capitalism? Is there a place where such a thing is applied?
- bko 11y agoLast 20 years: Global shift from centrally controlled economies to more free market economies -> fewer people that are poor -> fewer people that are starving or freezing to death
- wobbleblob 11y agoI get the impression that you have strong ideals, and that you need me to agree that the other side isn't just wrong, but (quoting my own post higher up): > will never agree (...) that the other group believes in fairness. This is how a political gridlock develops, how wars start. Who is going to negotiate with a side that doesn't even want to be fair? I know I wouldn't, it would be pointless.