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For the curious, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismillah_ar-Rahman,_ar-Raheem https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismillah_ar-Rahman,_ar-Rahe... If people want

For the curious, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismillah_ar-Rahman,_ar-Raheem https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismillah_ar-Rahman,_ar-Rahe... If people want to learn to read arabic a bit, at just the signboard level, to get by if you happen to be stranded in the Middle East or something, grouping the characters into similar patterns can make it a lot easier: http://gituser1357.github.io/arabic-alphabet.html http://gituser1357.github.io/arabic-alphabet.html

david-given 11y ago
Does Arabic have a similar enough set of phonemes to English to be able to write English using the Arabic script? Not that it's a particularly useful thing to do in of itself, but the script itself is beautiful, and I'd be interested to play with it.
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- gryn 11y ago
  Yes you can you'll have to use an extended version of the alphabet (the characters that have 3 dots on them) and you'll also be kinda forced to use diacritics
- schoen 11y ago
  You wouldn't be able to get some very basic English sounds with only the Arabic letters used to write Arabic. (For example, /v/, /p/, and the distinction between /dʒ/ and /g/.) But the Arabic script has been used to write a whole lot of languages (some of them completely unrelated to Arabic) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_script#Languages_currently_written_with_the_Arabic_alphabet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_script#Languages_curren... and sometimes by adding additional letters or reinterpreting letters to represent phonemes that Arabic doesn't have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_script#Special_letters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_script#Special_letters It's much like the way the Hebrew alphabet was modified to write Yiddish (a Germanic language), including the addition of new letters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_orthography#The_Yiddish_alphabet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_orthography#The_Yiddis... One example in the Arabic script is the letter pe (پ), which is very basic in Persian (an Indo-European language written with the Arabic script) but doesn't occur in the original Arabic alphabet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe_%28Persian_letter%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe_%28Persian_letter%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_alphabet#Changes_from_the_Arabic_writing_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_alphabet#Changes_from_...
- executesorder66 11y ago
  It worked for Afrikaans[0], so I suppose it would also work for English. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_Afrikaans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_Afrikaans
- ajuc 11y ago
  English script doesn't, and we use it for English language, so why not?
- gotchange 11y ago
  Theoretically, Arabic no but Persian yes. I can say with confidence that Persian have phonemes such as /v/, /p/, and the clear distinction between /j/ and /g/ because you might find this funny that Standard Arabic doesn't have a /g/ phoneme but in other derivative variations like Egyptian, Yemeni, Omani, it's featured prominently, and when they like to denote that, they esp. Levantine people usually resort to write it as غ like in «Google غوغل» which is the equivalent of the Parisian /r/, which is in my opinion it's still wrong, very wrong actually. It's safer for you to go with Persian other than Arab if the existence of these equivalent phonemes is a priority for you.
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- halov 11y ago
  Here's example of using Arabic script to transcribe an European language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arebica https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arebica

david-given 11y ago

Does Arabic have a similar enough set of phonemes to English to be able to write English using the Arabic script? Not that it's a particularly useful thing to do in of itself, but the script itself is beautiful, and I'd be interested to play with it.

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gryn 11y ago
Yes you can you'll have to use an extended version of the alphabet (the characters that have 3 dots on them) and you'll also be kinda forced to use diacritics
schoen 11y ago
You wouldn't be able to get some very basic English sounds with only the Arabic letters used to write Arabic. (For example, /v/, /p/, and the distinction between /dʒ/ and /g/.) But the Arabic script has been used to write a whole lot of languages (some of them completely unrelated to Arabic) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_script#Languages_currently_written_with_the_Arabic_alphabet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_script#Languages_curren... and sometimes by adding additional letters or reinterpreting letters to represent phonemes that Arabic doesn't have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_script#Special_letters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_script#Special_letters It's much like the way the Hebrew alphabet was modified to write Yiddish (a Germanic language), including the addition of new letters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_orthography#The_Yiddish_alphabet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_orthography#The_Yiddis... One example in the Arabic script is the letter pe (پ), which is very basic in Persian (an Indo-European language written with the Arabic script) but doesn't occur in the original Arabic alphabet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe_%28Persian_letter%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe_%28Persian_letter%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_alphabet#Changes_from_the_Arabic_writing_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_alphabet#Changes_from_...
executesorder66 11y ago
It worked for Afrikaans[0], so I suppose it would also work for English. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_Afrikaans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_Afrikaans
ajuc 11y ago
English script doesn't, and we use it for English language, so why not?
gotchange 11y ago
Theoretically, Arabic no but Persian yes. I can say with confidence that Persian have phonemes such as /v/, /p/, and the clear distinction between /j/ and /g/ because you might find this funny that Standard Arabic doesn't have a /g/ phoneme but in other derivative variations like Egyptian, Yemeni, Omani, it's featured prominently, and when they like to denote that, they esp. Levantine people usually resort to write it as غ like in «Google غوغل» which is the equivalent of the Parisian /r/, which is in my opinion it's still wrong, very wrong actually. It's safer for you to go with Persian other than Arab if the existence of these equivalent phonemes is a priority for you.
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halov 11y ago
Here's example of using Arabic script to transcribe an European language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arebica https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arebica