To further the military analogy, it depends. 3rd Bn. 75th Ranger Rgt. was where "winners go to feel bad about themselves". Jesus talk about eat your own toxic.

To further the military analogy, it depends. 3rd Bn. 75th Ranger Rgt. was where "winners go to feel bad about themselves". Jesus talk about eat your own toxic. You had to hate yourself to succeed there. However the 10th SF Group guys I worked with, and all the guys I knew who subsequently joined talked about about how great the culture was. Obviously there were exceptions to the rule but overall the feedback I got was positive, which added to my anecdotal evidence. It is possible to do hard things and maintain camaraderie. Frankly camaraderie is the different between toxic and non-toxic when trying to do "hard things". Either you have unit cohesion and strong leadership that understands how to truly "take care of soldiers and their families" or those that simply pay lip service and grind you down until you wash out. We're either all "in this together", or it's "don't get caught on the edge of the herd when the hyenas come". This culture most certainly comes from leadership. It takes a special skill to put the troops first and still drive them beyond what they even thought they were capable of. Boy, when it happens, it's beautiful and it builds strong friendships that last a lifetime. The kicker is, camaraderie is a force multiplier. Cohesive units absolutely out perform toxic ones.