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And next year when ASP.NET 5 ships, we'll finally be able to use environment variables for appSettings [1] instead of the hacked up mess that web.config is rig

And next year when ASP.NET 5 ships, we'll finally be able to use environment variables for appSettings [1] instead of the hacked up mess that web.config is right now. [1] http://docs.asp.net/en/latest/fundamentals/configuration.html http://docs.asp.net/en/latest/fundamentals/configuration.htm...

kristianp 11y ago
That might have provided the motivation to improve the environment variable editor.
jsudhams 11y ago
Isn't it bad? Given that only admin/power user can change environment variable, this will be a issue in shared hosting right?
- frik 11y ago
  Have you ever seen a shared web hoster that used Windows server edition? Shared hosting usually runs on LAMP. And server admins/devops won't have a problem. Applications will hopefully use variable with a prefix, e.g. App123Debug
  - insulanian 11y ago
    > Applications will hopefully use variable with a prefix, e.g. App123Debug Hopefully...
  - jsudhams 11y ago
    Yes, all the time. Azure / EC2 all provide top class windows hosting. But for low cost shared I am stuck with arvixe and aspdiscount or so... But yeah I have only windows hosting over 10 years . Gives me everything PHP, python, .net , MySQL , mssql. I find Linux shared hosting too restricted. especially with sql server express edition...For me writing .net (actually vb.net) is way faster personally than even C# I use it all the time , I use c# only when some function is missing even then I use c# via library and still keep the vb.net. Though lately vb.net sample codes is very low but easy to convert from c#. Tried python like it but that 4 whitespace or whatever freaks me out. Currently on Go and Erlang learning path... but yeah IIS 8.0 excellent platform for low traffic websites
- teh_klev 11y ago
  As one who's managed a Windows shared hosting environment since 2003 I've yet to encounter a request to set an environment variable.
- zo1 11y ago
  There are system variables, as well as user ones. Obviously, the users can set their own user variables.
mattmanser 11y ago
The asp.net team have taken something super simple, but opaque, and made it super complicated for no good reason. What people want: A static class that sets itself up on its own What they've given everyone: A class you've got to inject and instantiate on your own using IOptions<TOption> with each call to Configure<TOption> adding an IConfigureOptions<TOption> service to the service container that is used by the IOptions<TOption> Mind boggles at the over-engineering.
- mistermann 11y ago
  > taken something super simple, but opaque, and made it super complicated for no good reason They're just being consistent with the way most software is written nowadays.

kristianp 11y ago

That might have provided the motivation to improve the environment variable editor.

jsudhams 11y ago

Isn't it bad? Given that only admin/power user can change environment variable, this will be a issue in shared hosting right?

frik 11y ago
Have you ever seen a shared web hoster that used Windows server edition? Shared hosting usually runs on LAMP. And server admins/devops won't have a problem. Applications will hopefully use variable with a prefix, e.g. App123Debug
- insulanian 11y ago
  > Applications will hopefully use variable with a prefix, e.g. App123Debug Hopefully...
- jsudhams 11y ago
  Yes, all the time. Azure / EC2 all provide top class windows hosting. But for low cost shared I am stuck with arvixe and aspdiscount or so... But yeah I have only windows hosting over 10 years . Gives me everything PHP, python, .net , MySQL , mssql. I find Linux shared hosting too restricted. especially with sql server express edition...For me writing .net (actually vb.net) is way faster personally than even C# I use it all the time , I use c# only when some function is missing even then I use c# via library and still keep the vb.net. Though lately vb.net sample codes is very low but easy to convert from c#. Tried python like it but that 4 whitespace or whatever freaks me out. Currently on Go and Erlang learning path... but yeah IIS 8.0 excellent platform for low traffic websites
teh_klev 11y ago
As one who's managed a Windows shared hosting environment since 2003 I've yet to encounter a request to set an environment variable.
zo1 11y ago
There are system variables, as well as user ones. Obviously, the users can set their own user variables.

mattmanser 11y ago

The asp.net team have taken something super simple, but opaque, and made it super complicated for no good reason. What people want: A static class that sets itself up on its own What they've given everyone: A class you've got to inject and instantiate on your own using IOptions<TOption> with each call to Configure<TOption> adding an IConfigureOptions<TOption> service to the service container that is used by the IOptions<TOption> Mind boggles at the over-engineering.

mistermann 11y ago
> taken something super simple, but opaque, and made it super complicated for no good reason They're just being consistent with the way most software is written nowadays.