In these types of situations it doesn't even make sense to try and surreptitiously make a recording of the call. I routinely record _all_ calls between myself a

In these types of situations it doesn't even make sense to try and surreptitiously make a recording of the call. I routinely record _all_ calls between myself and attorneys, accountants, advisors, partners, etc. and after asking permission to record not a single time has any of these people denied me permission or even questioned why I would record the call. Most people even appreciate receiving a copy of the conversation afterwards as well. In business situations like this, asking to record a call for records purposes is not an anti-pattern and you shouldn't be afraid to ask the other party for permission.