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My post here was not asking for feedback. I already heard from you guys in this regards. Thanks...most of it was helpful! I was politely asking if any UI des

My post here was not asking for feedback. I already heard from you guys in this regards. Thanks...most of it was helpful! I was politely asking if any UI designers are available and interested. If not cool.. I just thought I'd reach out to fellow entreprenuers/designers & coders.

rms 19y ago
But what does it say that the reaction you get here, from your peers, is so harshly negative?
- randallsquared 19y ago
  Not much, necessarily. What if the guy(s) behind myspace had asked for feedback in a hacker forum in 2002? It's not clear to me that many would have recognized it as a huge moneymaker.
  - NSX2 19y ago
    Exactly ... I know I'm going to lose all 9 of my karma points for this, but: Michael Dell is successful in business and throughout 98, 99, and 2000 maintained that Steve Jobs should just "give up" and "stop deluding shareholders". Good thing Steve Jobs is in the habit of listening to unsolicited advice. So now that the whole world knows that even the opinions of rich, successful people can be totally off and worthless, what makes you naysayers think anybody cares what you think about their startup prospects? For all you know this guy's invented an algorithm to download terabits of video in seconds and is using this "social alarm" thing as a ruse ...
    - randallsquared 19y ago
      As an aside, I'd feel better about modding you up if you didn't protest that you expect to be modded down. :)
    - mattmaroon 19y ago
      That logic is bad because Jobs and Dell were sorta competitors. This guy has well-meaning noncompetitors telling him to switch directions, which is a much different thing.
      - NSX2 19y ago
        Not really; in both cases you have people who don't know what they're talking about giving unsolicited advice the value of which nobody knows a priori ...
- ryanspahn 19y ago
  This a brand new concept and Im encouraged by the following articles... http://tinyurl.com/3xk392 http://tinyurl.com/3xk392 http://krisabel.ctv.ca/blog/CoolLinks/_archives/2007/12/12/3405537.html http://krisabel.ctv.ca/blog/CoolLinks/_archives/2007/12/12/3... http://tinyurl.com/3yzeo9 http://tinyurl.com/3yzeo9 (translated from French) Also, Sleep.FM was chosen as a TechCrunch40 semi-finalist, chosen to present alongside Google, Microsoft and Facebook at NY Tech MeetUp, landing on Engadget.com (the readers comments do not all mirror comments here) and other encouraging things! Again, i was just politely posting for a UI designer who maybe available and interested.
  - NSX2 19y ago
    That's your problem, Ryan - you're politely asking for feedback from bitter, jealous members of an elitist mutual-admiration society whose total collective output to date equals ... well, all I'm saying is you should know better! Go ahead, pg! Delete my account! Come on! Give me a negative karma rating!
    - ryanspahn 19y ago
      But, I really was not asking for feedback this time! Was sincerely looking for a UI designer/consultant...
    - Xichekolas 19y ago
      I wasn't going to mod any of your posts down... but then you made this one... which honestly just confused the shit out of me. You had the moral high ground (defending a guy for taking a chance on an idea), and then you squandered it by jumping the shark and insulting everyone on YC News, all of our ideas/projects/skills, and then to top it off, throwing down a completely random gauntlet to pg himself, as if he had anything to do with any of this. I suggest you close the browser and chill out a bit. No flame war is ever worth sounding that crazy. (PS. I still didn't mod you down, but only because I stick by my '-1 is enough bad karma' rule.)
      - NSX2 19y ago

rms 19y ago

But what does it say that the reaction you get here, from your peers, is so harshly negative?

randallsquared 19y ago
Not much, necessarily. What if the guy(s) behind myspace had asked for feedback in a hacker forum in 2002? It's not clear to me that many would have recognized it as a huge moneymaker.
- NSX2 19y ago
  Exactly ... I know I'm going to lose all 9 of my karma points for this, but: Michael Dell is successful in business and throughout 98, 99, and 2000 maintained that Steve Jobs should just "give up" and "stop deluding shareholders". Good thing Steve Jobs is in the habit of listening to unsolicited advice. So now that the whole world knows that even the opinions of rich, successful people can be totally off and worthless, what makes you naysayers think anybody cares what you think about their startup prospects? For all you know this guy's invented an algorithm to download terabits of video in seconds and is using this "social alarm" thing as a ruse ...
  - randallsquared 19y ago
    As an aside, I'd feel better about modding you up if you didn't protest that you expect to be modded down. :)
  - mattmaroon 19y ago
    That logic is bad because Jobs and Dell were sorta competitors. This guy has well-meaning noncompetitors telling him to switch directions, which is a much different thing.
    - NSX2 19y ago
      Not really; in both cases you have people who don't know what they're talking about giving unsolicited advice the value of which nobody knows a priori ...
ryanspahn 19y ago
This a brand new concept and Im encouraged by the following articles... http://tinyurl.com/3xk392 http://tinyurl.com/3xk392 http://krisabel.ctv.ca/blog/CoolLinks/_archives/2007/12/12/3405537.html http://krisabel.ctv.ca/blog/CoolLinks/_archives/2007/12/12/3... http://tinyurl.com/3yzeo9 http://tinyurl.com/3yzeo9 (translated from French) Also, Sleep.FM was chosen as a TechCrunch40 semi-finalist, chosen to present alongside Google, Microsoft and Facebook at NY Tech MeetUp, landing on Engadget.com (the readers comments do not all mirror comments here) and other encouraging things! Again, i was just politely posting for a UI designer who maybe available and interested.
- NSX2 19y ago
  That's your problem, Ryan - you're politely asking for feedback from bitter, jealous members of an elitist mutual-admiration society whose total collective output to date equals ... well, all I'm saying is you should know better! Go ahead, pg! Delete my account! Come on! Give me a negative karma rating!
  - ryanspahn 19y ago
    But, I really was not asking for feedback this time! Was sincerely looking for a UI designer/consultant...
  - Xichekolas 19y ago
    I wasn't going to mod any of your posts down... but then you made this one... which honestly just confused the shit out of me. You had the moral high ground (defending a guy for taking a chance on an idea), and then you squandered it by jumping the shark and insulting everyone on YC News, all of our ideas/projects/skills, and then to top it off, throwing down a completely random gauntlet to pg himself, as if he had anything to do with any of this. I suggest you close the browser and chill out a bit. No flame war is ever worth sounding that crazy. (PS. I still didn't mod you down, but only because I stick by my '-1 is enough bad karma' rule.)
    - NSX2 19y ago