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LOL, so it's a conspiracy and all the poor people are in on it!
by socialist_coder 11y ago
LOL, so it's a conspiracy and all the poor people are in on it!
- delinka 11y agoI never said all of them; I said "welfare professionals" for which I don't have a count. If you want a count from my anecdote, let's say 15. I can't even guess a percentage because I didn't sit at the welfare office all day observing and counting people, nor following them around to observe their public lives and behavior. I'm sharing my own anecdote so you can see how it might be impossible to find actual data on this phenomenon. Certainly there are people who "conspire" to do bad things. Sometimes the "conspiracy" is one guy. Sometimes it's a small group. The only thing I can say with absolutely certainty is that the system will be gamed. How much depends on data that you're just not going to find.
- XorNot 11y agoThis entire rant is just that: a rant. You have no idea if anything you're talking about is real. It's all anecdote and suspicion at others. Someone who is creative and fastidious about saving, reusing and recycling would, to your eyes, look like a welfare fraud because they might superficially seem better off then you think they should.
- jazzyk 11y agoHow is it a rant? He has first-hand, eye-witness experience. There are enough anecdotes (I could supply a few) to suspect there is a welfare abuse problem - we just don't know the extent of it, as numbers are hard to come by (for reasons explained by the poster you criticize). Stating the fact that _some_ people take advantage of the system does not make one a heartless bastard.
- dalke 11y agoSo it's the same level of anecdotal evidence as all of those suspected in-person voter fraud cases, which justified the introduction of voter ID laws?