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Many put it tons of effort and live in near-poverty conditions. How do you think that feels as a disconnect between effort and result? They are trapped, with no

Many put it tons of effort and live in near-poverty conditions. How do you think that feels as a disconnect between effort and result? They are trapped, with no options. The indifference and apathy of bureaucratic communism comes from lack of choice, starting with who to vote for. And as for long-term-unemployment... that's kind of the reason UBI is being proposed, because automation will eliminate so many jobs there simply won't be enough work to go around. Would you prefer the new norm to be the owners of that automation forcing those locked out of work opportunities from birth into worse and worse living conditions, because in the automated future their labour has no value?

MichaelMoser123 11y ago
>Would you prefer the new norm to be the owners of that automation forcing those locked out of work opportunities from birth into worse and worse living conditions, because in the automated future their labour has no value? i don't think that is inevitable; there is a lot you can do - shorter working days come to mind. Also mind me but technology is also creating jobs, a hundred years ago there were no programmers, that's a profession created by technology. A hundred years ago there were more jobs in assembly, nowadays work is more varied - employment is more specialized and there are professions that nobody thought of back then. The worst you can do is to label off a large percentage of your population and to refuse to educate them. You end up in a situation where many shops need to import H1B workers. >The indifference and apathy of bureaucratic communism comes from lack of choice, starting with who to vote for. I think that in the soviet block most people were working on the construction of Egyptian pyramids - projects that were not productive in any sense, everything was subordinate to the the military industrial complex, etc. There are many non democratic countries in the world, but here you had it that the bureaucracy was totally out of touch with reality, that's a quite unique situation. i think that this would be the real danger - a ruling elite that is disregarding any feedback and which is totally out of touch with reality. One can argue that this can't happen in an enlightened democracy, i am not so sure about that.

MichaelMoser123 11y ago

>Would you prefer the new norm to be the owners of that automation forcing those locked out of work opportunities from birth into worse and worse living conditions, because in the automated future their labour has no value? i don't think that is inevitable; there is a lot you can do - shorter working days come to mind. Also mind me but technology is also creating jobs, a hundred years ago there were no programmers, that's a profession created by technology. A hundred years ago there were more jobs in assembly, nowadays work is more varied - employment is more specialized and there are professions that nobody thought of back then. The worst you can do is to label off a large percentage of your population and to refuse to educate them. You end up in a situation where many shops need to import H1B workers. >The indifference and apathy of bureaucratic communism comes from lack of choice, starting with who to vote for. I think that in the soviet block most people were working on the construction of Egyptian pyramids - projects that were not productive in any sense, everything was subordinate to the the military industrial complex, etc. There are many non democratic countries in the world, but here you had it that the bureaucracy was totally out of touch with reality, that's a quite unique situation. i think that this would be the real danger - a ruling elite that is disregarding any feedback and which is totally out of touch with reality. One can argue that this can't happen in an enlightened democracy, i am not so sure about that.