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San Francisco does as well. I'm going to sound like a rich white male when I say this, and it's not intended that way, but who do you think takes out the trash
by ill0gicity 11y ago
San Francisco does as well. I'm going to sound like a rich white male when I say this, and it's not intended that way, but who do you think takes out the trash at all the tech companies? Where do those tech bros eat their meals when not provided by said tech companies? Who builds out all the tech companies' new offices? Who-- Oh.
The problem San Francisco seems to have is all the low and medium wage jobs appear to support the tech companies. There are few artisans and craftsmen in SF.
- hugh4 11y agoYou can't really compare SF to LA, because SF is a tiny, arbitrary corner of a giant metropolitan area, whereas Los Angeles is a much larger equally arbitrary slice of another giant metropolitan area. Anyway the point is that if you're going to compare SF to something compare it to a couple of LA suburbs, maybe Downtown + Hollywood + Bel Air or something.
- jshaqaw 11y agoAgree with you Hugh. Per capita comparisons are silly given the vast population differential. I love San Fran and am no basher here but the geography+zoning of San Fran makes it an enclave for the high income with no place for anything else. Unfortunately unlike Lake Wobegon everyone can't be above average income. Not sure if San Fran has applicable lessons outside its little zone.
- markdown 11y ago> There are few artisans and craftsmen in SF. I've been led to believe the exact opposite. Apparently web designers (they like to use fancier names these days) from SF spend all their time artisanally handcrafting websites.
- themoonbus 11y agoWhere do those people live, though?
- iolothebard 11y agoRichmond, San Leandro, Pacifica, Freemont, Oakland (non-gentrified areas), Concord, ... Pretty much the ends of BART.
- WWLink 11y agoOr live in Vallejo/Benicia/Fairfield for that extra $5 bridge toll shudder I was thinking about it, there is one thing LA beats the bay area at - if you live an hour away from work, paying a toll is just an option (for high speed lanes, if they exist). In SF, you either pay the toll or you.. don't cross the bridge, because there's no other choice! But growing up in the Bay Area, I never thought a 6 mile commute would take me 40 minutes on a day with horrible traffic. Thankfully, it's usually only 20 minutes! Another thing about LA: The traffic lights are really the worst thing. Even the 405 during rush hour isn't that bad - just a typic freeway parking lot. I've seen 80 look just like it! Now, for a uniquely Los Angeles experience.. here goes: You're waiting about a block and a half from the next red light in evening traffic. Finally, the light turns green, but cars aren't moving. You need to turn left up at the intersection, but the left turn lane begins about 5 cars from the limit line. The light turns yellow, and then red. Finally, the cars in front of you start moving again. So you start moving, and wonder if you'll actually get into the left turn lane.... sadly no. There's 2 cars in front of you, and a cement median that keeps you from waiting in line. Lather, rinse, repeat. The light turns green, cars move, you're finally in the left turn lane at pole position! In the midst of that you watched a handful of fed up people run the red arrow because they couldn't stand waiting 5 minutes for yet another green light. Eventually, you get going.