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Does anyone trust Google enough to build a business on their product? They've shown a propensity for terminating projects when they no longer feel like supporti

Does anyone trust Google enough to build a business on their product? They've shown a propensity for terminating projects when they no longer feel like supporting them. I'd hate to have thousands of servers relying on Google's services and API's and have them say "Oh hey sorry, we're shutting down, you have 90 days to migrate starting tomorrow".

twrkit 11y ago
Snapchat is one example [0]. [0] http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-is-built-on-googles-cloud-2014-1 http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-is-built-on-googles-...
- hga 11y ago
  Given that Snapchat's business proposition is based on deliberately ephemeral data....
  - jsprogrammer 11y ago
    Not anymore. They recently transformed into a PPV DVR.
dbrian 11y ago
What cloud platform services have they shutdown? Project churn in other parts of the business doesn't mean I shouldn't trust their container service or load balancers.
- jacquesm 11y ago
  Wave. Of course that depends on your definition of cloud platform services.
servercobra 11y ago
Migrating off Google would be much less painful than trying to migrate off of Amazon's large group of proprietary services. e.g. Google's Container Engine is based on Kubernetes.
IndianAstronaut 11y ago
Will have to keep this in mind as our company contemplates BigQuery.
- vgt 11y ago
  I work on BigQuery. I am a little biased, but "canceled product" is FUD, especially for paid services at Google. Especially for BigQuery, which has no equal. Feel free to ping me if you want more info :)
  - boundlessdreamz 11y ago
    Can you let powers be know that Google Cloud Storage is expensive compared to Cloudfront & S3 :) Cloud Storage considers retrieving an object through its HTTP url is considered a class B XML request type which is priced at $0.01/10,000 ops. This is 1.3x-2.5x more expensive than cloudfront and s3 respectively. I think this is the only google cloud service which is more expensive than the AWS equivalent
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bitmapbrother 11y ago
Yes, more so than Microsoft. And please let go of this Google Reader meme you like to perpetuate. I doubt you even used it.
declan 11y ago
What popular paid service has Google terminated? Any? We built our recommendation engine for Recent News (https://recent.io/ https://recent.io/) on Google App Engine in Python. There was some tricky engineering involved in making sure that it would work inside that particular environment, but it's paid off in terms of scalability. We're not worried about Google shutting down App Engine; in fact it's being continuously improved.
- shthed 11y ago
  Google Maps Engine https://developers.google.com/maps-engine/ https://developers.google.com/maps-engine/
  - declan 11y ago
    I never used Google Maps Engine myself, so I'm not really familiar with it. But it looks like Google was trying to consolidate and improve its paid maps offerings, not discontinue them: http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2015/01/google-maps-engine-deprecated.html http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2015/01/google-maps-... The move should be seen as Google transitioning customers to already existing alternative products, especially Google My Maps (formerly Maps Engine Lite) which has come of age and now has most of the important features of Google Maps Engine A better example would be if Google were to discontinue its paid Google Maps API?
dragonwriter 11y ago
> They've shown a propensity for terminating projects when they no longer feel like supporting them. The only companies that don't terminate projects when it it no longer serves a strategic business purpose to support them are companies that instead terminate the projects because they go out of business. Google is, if anything, unusually good at providing warning and a migration path off a product when they decide to terminate it.
draw_down 11y ago
"Don't use Google to run your business because I'm sad Google Reader got shut down"

twrkit 11y ago

Snapchat is one example [0]. [0] http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-is-built-on-googles-cloud-2014-1 http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-is-built-on-googles-...

hga 11y ago
Given that Snapchat's business proposition is based on deliberately ephemeral data....
- jsprogrammer 11y ago
  Not anymore. They recently transformed into a PPV DVR.

dbrian 11y ago

What cloud platform services have they shutdown? Project churn in other parts of the business doesn't mean I shouldn't trust their container service or load balancers.

jacquesm 11y ago
Wave. Of course that depends on your definition of cloud platform services.

servercobra 11y ago

Migrating off Google would be much less painful than trying to migrate off of Amazon's large group of proprietary services. e.g. Google's Container Engine is based on Kubernetes.

IndianAstronaut 11y ago

Will have to keep this in mind as our company contemplates BigQuery.

vgt 11y ago
I work on BigQuery. I am a little biased, but "canceled product" is FUD, especially for paid services at Google. Especially for BigQuery, which has no equal. Feel free to ping me if you want more info :)
- boundlessdreamz 11y ago
  Can you let powers be know that Google Cloud Storage is expensive compared to Cloudfront & S3 :) Cloud Storage considers retrieving an object through its HTTP url is considered a class B XML request type which is priced at $0.01/10,000 ops. This is 1.3x-2.5x more expensive than cloudfront and s3 respectively. I think this is the only google cloud service which is more expensive than the AWS equivalent

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bitmapbrother 11y ago

Yes, more so than Microsoft. And please let go of this Google Reader meme you like to perpetuate. I doubt you even used it.

declan 11y ago

What popular paid service has Google terminated? Any? We built our recommendation engine for Recent News (https://recent.io/ https://recent.io/) on Google App Engine in Python. There was some tricky engineering involved in making sure that it would work inside that particular environment, but it's paid off in terms of scalability. We're not worried about Google shutting down App Engine; in fact it's being continuously improved.

shthed 11y ago
Google Maps Engine https://developers.google.com/maps-engine/ https://developers.google.com/maps-engine/
- declan 11y ago
  I never used Google Maps Engine myself, so I'm not really familiar with it. But it looks like Google was trying to consolidate and improve its paid maps offerings, not discontinue them: http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2015/01/google-maps-engine-deprecated.html http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2015/01/google-maps-... The move should be seen as Google transitioning customers to already existing alternative products, especially Google My Maps (formerly Maps Engine Lite) which has come of age and now has most of the important features of Google Maps Engine A better example would be if Google were to discontinue its paid Google Maps API?

dragonwriter 11y ago

> They've shown a propensity for terminating projects when they no longer feel like supporting them. The only companies that don't terminate projects when it it no longer serves a strategic business purpose to support them are companies that instead terminate the projects because they go out of business. Google is, if anything, unusually good at providing warning and a migration path off a product when they decide to terminate it.

draw_down 11y ago

"Don't use Google to run your business because I'm sad Google Reader got shut down"