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Popcorntime is dead

37 points by BatFastard 11y ago

milge 11y ago
I await a replacement eagerly. I just canceled my Netflix since I haven't used it in months. I always wanted to test popcorntime out, but never found the time.
- pizza 11y ago
  butter
  - milge 11y ago
    I saw that on the site: >is basically your beloved Popcorn Time stipped down of the parts that made people wary. Which parts will be stripped out? The parts that make popcorntime functional?
    - BatFastard 11y ago
      They should fear it. Everything you wanted with no ads for free....
      - daveloyall 11y ago
        Who is 'they'? What do we want? What was stripped out? Who was made wary?
    - matthewbauer 11y ago
      Probably the parts that link into YTS.to. Basically all of the content. Hopefully they can come up with a standard API that YTS.to replacements can use enabling users to modify Butter to work like PopcornTime did.
  - rhythmvs 11y ago
    Alas, dead too… $ wget https://butterproject.org --2015-10-23 22:10:49-- https://butterproject.org/ Resolving butterproject.org... 184.168.221.24 Connecting to butterproject.org|184.168.221.24|:443... failed: Connection refused.
    - gizmo686 11y ago
      They seem to have moved to https://butterproject.github.io/ https://butterproject.github.io/ which has a post from today (23 October 2015).
- awqrre 11y ago
  I keep my Netflix subscription even if I don't use it much because I'd rather download the movies and I still want to pay. It gives me more flexibility for how I can watch them...
alwayslearning 11y ago
Sad, but inevitable.
- daveloyall 11y ago
  Being unfamiliar with popcorntime, I don't know why this was inevitable. Why does the status page say "I cleaned all server before switch them down to keep all Developers safe"? What happened? What was gandi.net's role?
  - tekromancr 11y ago
    Popcorn time is an open source piracy app with bittorrent streaming and a nice UI. There was a dustup among the developers, and no one seems to have access to the domain anymore.
sktrdie 11y ago
I urge people to support the implementation of DHT feeds [1] in famous BitTorrent clients. The idea being that people can subscribe to specific DHT keys they trust, and publishers can publish at that key (by signing the content). This would virtually allow us to use the DHT platform, already in use for sharing IP addresses of peers downloading specific content, also for decentralized torrent "sites" that can't be shut down. 1. http://sourceforge.net/p/libtorrent/mailman/message/34356471/ http://sourceforge.net/p/libtorrent/mailman/message/34356471...
- conceit 11y ago
  "can't" too big to fail, yes?
  - bro-stick 11y ago
    Distributed is much more swat proof, and the clear way to go because it reduces the SPOF of a single domain or API taking everyone down. Popcorn Time proved to be another Lavabit doomed to fail as expected... you need Popcorn Time beauty and ease of use with distributed "netflix meets TPB meet Wikipedia meets i2p" voting and metadata corrections to ensure the system is as reliable as the number of reachable users, not subject to some half-assed, un-swat proof central SPOF servers that don't have at least as good hosting and security as TPB.
bro-stick 11y ago
The iOS version of http://popcorn-time.se http://popcorn-time.se appears to work still, even though it hasn't appeared to move much. Why not merge the codebases of popcorntime.io and continue on with that fork and fix underlying issue of relying on a single torrent feed api? From outward appearances, the core issue of the meltdown was people not getting along, personal registration of shared resources (important passwords should halved and split among core devs and emails sent to a group account, not personal emails) and trusting unproven people too much. Don't keep "talented" a*holes because they'll just f%ck everyone over the first chance they get. "Hobby" or free is no substitute for unwise and lazy practices. Future PopcornTime-inspired apps (as well as other privacy apps) must go fully distributed to survive, or starting something is dead on arrival. Also, folks might try sticking to something for a change, not just throwing away their time (lives) and work because they got afraid of attaining some success, because it probably won't happen twice.

37 points by BatFastard 11y ago

milge 11y ago

I await a replacement eagerly. I just canceled my Netflix since I haven't used it in months. I always wanted to test popcorntime out, but never found the time.

pizza 11y ago
butter
- milge 11y ago
  I saw that on the site: >is basically your beloved Popcorn Time stipped down of the parts that made people wary. Which parts will be stripped out? The parts that make popcorntime functional?
  - BatFastard 11y ago
    They should fear it. Everything you wanted with no ads for free....
    - daveloyall 11y ago
      Who is 'they'? What do we want? What was stripped out? Who was made wary?
  - matthewbauer 11y ago
    Probably the parts that link into YTS.to. Basically all of the content. Hopefully they can come up with a standard API that YTS.to replacements can use enabling users to modify Butter to work like PopcornTime did.
- rhythmvs 11y ago
  Alas, dead too… $ wget https://butterproject.org --2015-10-23 22:10:49-- https://butterproject.org/ Resolving butterproject.org... 184.168.221.24 Connecting to butterproject.org|184.168.221.24|:443... failed: Connection refused.
  - gizmo686 11y ago
    They seem to have moved to https://butterproject.github.io/ https://butterproject.github.io/ which has a post from today (23 October 2015).
awqrre 11y ago
I keep my Netflix subscription even if I don't use it much because I'd rather download the movies and I still want to pay. It gives me more flexibility for how I can watch them...

alwayslearning 11y ago

Sad, but inevitable.

daveloyall 11y ago
Being unfamiliar with popcorntime, I don't know why this was inevitable. Why does the status page say "I cleaned all server before switch them down to keep all Developers safe"? What happened? What was gandi.net's role?
- tekromancr 11y ago
  Popcorn time is an open source piracy app with bittorrent streaming and a nice UI. There was a dustup among the developers, and no one seems to have access to the domain anymore.

sktrdie 11y ago

I urge people to support the implementation of DHT feeds [1] in famous BitTorrent clients. The idea being that people can subscribe to specific DHT keys they trust, and publishers can publish at that key (by signing the content). This would virtually allow us to use the DHT platform, already in use for sharing IP addresses of peers downloading specific content, also for decentralized torrent "sites" that can't be shut down. 1. http://sourceforge.net/p/libtorrent/mailman/message/34356471/ http://sourceforge.net/p/libtorrent/mailman/message/34356471...

conceit 11y ago
"can't" too big to fail, yes?
- bro-stick 11y ago
  Distributed is much more swat proof, and the clear way to go because it reduces the SPOF of a single domain or API taking everyone down. Popcorn Time proved to be another Lavabit doomed to fail as expected... you need Popcorn Time beauty and ease of use with distributed "netflix meets TPB meet Wikipedia meets i2p" voting and metadata corrections to ensure the system is as reliable as the number of reachable users, not subject to some half-assed, un-swat proof central SPOF servers that don't have at least as good hosting and security as TPB.

bro-stick 11y ago

The iOS version of http://popcorn-time.se http://popcorn-time.se appears to work still, even though it hasn't appeared to move much. Why not merge the codebases of popcorntime.io and continue on with that fork and fix underlying issue of relying on a single torrent feed api? From outward appearances, the core issue of the meltdown was people not getting along, personal registration of shared resources (important passwords should halved and split among core devs and emails sent to a group account, not personal emails) and trusting unproven people too much. Don't keep "talented" a*holes because they'll just f%ck everyone over the first chance they get. "Hobby" or free is no substitute for unwise and lazy practices. Future PopcornTime-inspired apps (as well as other privacy apps) must go fully distributed to survive, or starting something is dead on arrival. Also, folks might try sticking to something for a change, not just throwing away their time (lives) and work because they got afraid of attaining some success, because it probably won't happen twice.