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fairness is a horrendous choice of words, but the one this article chose to use there are many unfair side effects of current economics look at taxes.. recen

fairness is a horrendous choice of words, but the one this article chose to use there are many unfair side effects of current economics look at taxes.. recently i read a major corporate entity paid 4k pounds in taxes in 2014(o). The top comment says: TIL our small UK startup pays 10-20x more corp tax .. Doing things honestly and by the book is expensive in both money terms and time terms (paying accountants) Big corps .. make me feel like a fool. though these corps are seen as equals in buraecratic lines, the expectations and avenues of utilising those regulations seems unfairly balanced or look at fines.. if i get a parking ticket(i) for 100$, i may be unable to pay it right away with my zero savings and my 12k/yr income, someone making 80k+ a year will just pay the 100$ grievance and be done with it i will have to start budgeting myself to make enough to pay the 100$ fine, but it will take time with bimonthly paychecks and in that time i will be punished with late fees only increasing the financial burden and time needed to accrue the funds even if trying to do the right thing people punished further simply for economic circumstance so though the two violators are seen as equal, the expectations and avenues of how to rectify the violations seems unfairly balanced people making less end up paying more for the same violation due to the bureaucracy maintaining the violations or i could use a payday loan(ii), another damning option these are only two examples of areas where a conversation about fairness stead equality alters the direction of the conversation (o) https://www.reddit.com/comments/3ofo13/ https://www.reddit.com/comments/3ofo13/ (i) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjpmT5noto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjpmT5noto (ii) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDylgzybWAw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDylgzybWAw

stvswn 11y ago
You've hit on a really key point. Life is easier when you have more money. Not trying to be callous, but it's going to come out that way -- maybe the answer is to try to make some more of it. Because trying to redesign society to eliminate this basic fact of the world has so far led to disastrous results. Like, hundreds of millions dead kind of results. With nothing to show for it, because there were still haves and have nots. "But I'm not advocating Stalinism!" you'd say. But remember, Lenin and Trotsky and Stalin came from good intentions, too. So did Mao and Pol Pot and Ho and Kim. Everyone wanted to solve the problem you're describing.
- justifier 11y ago
  callous? i'd say you're offering a proven solution but i'd wonder, how does one 'make some more of it'? stalinism? you're arguing with someone else my complaints are against the bureaucracy of the problem there is more to this conversation than a binary of stalinism and some undefined other what do you mean by 'easier'? seems to the suffer the same ills as using vague language such as 'fair' and i'd caution against utilising the concept of 'fact' when discussing subsets what of a generation born into wealth that fails to make any more if it but their life remains, or even becomes moreso, by your own definitions, 'easier'?

stvswn 11y ago

You've hit on a really key point. Life is easier when you have more money. Not trying to be callous, but it's going to come out that way -- maybe the answer is to try to make some more of it. Because trying to redesign society to eliminate this basic fact of the world has so far led to disastrous results. Like, hundreds of millions dead kind of results. With nothing to show for it, because there were still haves and have nots. "But I'm not advocating Stalinism!" you'd say. But remember, Lenin and Trotsky and Stalin came from good intentions, too. So did Mao and Pol Pot and Ho and Kim. Everyone wanted to solve the problem you're describing.

justifier 11y ago
callous? i'd say you're offering a proven solution but i'd wonder, how does one 'make some more of it'? stalinism? you're arguing with someone else my complaints are against the bureaucracy of the problem there is more to this conversation than a binary of stalinism and some undefined other what do you mean by 'easier'? seems to the suffer the same ills as using vague language such as 'fair' and i'd caution against utilising the concept of 'fact' when discussing subsets what of a generation born into wealth that fails to make any more if it but their life remains, or even becomes moreso, by your own definitions, 'easier'?