> I don't think anyone says prisons should be inhumane in order to punish criminals. The imprisonment is the punishment, not the treatment inside the prison. I

> I don't think anyone says prisons should be inhumane in order to punish criminals. The imprisonment is the punishment, not the treatment inside the prison. I think there are many people who say prisons should be inhumane to punish criminals, it's just that they don't understand what they're advocating is inhumane. An example is the meme that prisoners aren't being punished enough in their "country club prisons", and they should be denied all "luxuries" (defined as thing like TV sets, education, and other things to pass the time). The people who subscribe to that are advocating for inhumane punishment (sensory/psychological/social deprivation), but often they're reflective and haven't thought though their own ideas to really understand them.