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Must be nice to live in a black and white universe where all things are absolute, must save a lot of time thinking about the world!

mason240 11y ago
I'm not sure who else would be to blame. I would like hear your theory on who is committing crimes if it's not the criminals themselves. Since you accusing me being a simpleton, you are going to have to explain what you mean.
- sarciszewski 11y ago
  http://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229 http://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/...
  - maxerickson 11y ago
    That book is a political piece aimed at regulation, it doesn't establish that the average person commits three felonies a day and when you look at the example cases there are things like people intentionally illegally importing millions of dollars of shrimp (they were trying to avoid harvest regulations). It's a shining example of marketing having a negative impact on public discourse.
  - mason240 11y ago
    Do you have a point?
    - sarciszewski 11y ago
      I have infinitely many points. Which one do you want?
- pizza234 11y ago
  Here's one of the many: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School-to-prison_pipeline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School-to-prison_pipeline. <sarcasm>You can't blame poor people for not having access to the immunity bankers have.</sarcasm>
  - mason240 11y ago
    So you are claiming that schools are forcing people to commit crimes?
- VeejayRampay 11y ago
  Upvoting you in the chance someone will see your reply. Sweeping controversial comments under the rug is bad for public debate, so to address your question and concerns, let me be clear that I was not accusing you of being a simpleton, I was "accusing" (word is a bit too strong for my liking, but it is somehow the right sentiment) you of framing the issue in simple terms that I don't think properly address the complexity of the issues at hand. If the point was to try to understand the reasons for incarceration period, then fair enough, "people committing crimes" would be good enough an explanation. But I think the debate is more centered around "massive incarceration", which implies that there is something special about the rate of incarceration in the USA and that people are trying to understand why that is that the USA are putting so many people in prison for petty offenses, drug use and myriads of other controversial reasons. It also questions the reason why some minorities are so disproportionately represented in that carceral population and whether or not there is a system in place to target them specifically in the response to crime in the country. I would like to apologize if the phrasing of my answer was a tad snarky, I just found that you were addressing the topic with way too broad a brush for an issue that is so extremely serious, far-reaching and bordering on institutional social management.

mason240 11y ago

I'm not sure who else would be to blame. I would like hear your theory on who is committing crimes if it's not the criminals themselves. Since you accusing me being a simpleton, you are going to have to explain what you mean.

sarciszewski 11y ago
http://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229 http://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/...
- maxerickson 11y ago
  That book is a political piece aimed at regulation, it doesn't establish that the average person commits three felonies a day and when you look at the example cases there are things like people intentionally illegally importing millions of dollars of shrimp (they were trying to avoid harvest regulations). It's a shining example of marketing having a negative impact on public discourse.
- mason240 11y ago
  Do you have a point?
  - sarciszewski 11y ago
    I have infinitely many points. Which one do you want?
pizza234 11y ago
Here's one of the many: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School-to-prison_pipeline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School-to-prison_pipeline. <sarcasm>You can't blame poor people for not having access to the immunity bankers have.</sarcasm>
- mason240 11y ago
  So you are claiming that schools are forcing people to commit crimes?
VeejayRampay 11y ago
Upvoting you in the chance someone will see your reply. Sweeping controversial comments under the rug is bad for public debate, so to address your question and concerns, let me be clear that I was not accusing you of being a simpleton, I was "accusing" (word is a bit too strong for my liking, but it is somehow the right sentiment) you of framing the issue in simple terms that I don't think properly address the complexity of the issues at hand. If the point was to try to understand the reasons for incarceration period, then fair enough, "people committing crimes" would be good enough an explanation. But I think the debate is more centered around "massive incarceration", which implies that there is something special about the rate of incarceration in the USA and that people are trying to understand why that is that the USA are putting so many people in prison for petty offenses, drug use and myriads of other controversial reasons. It also questions the reason why some minorities are so disproportionately represented in that carceral population and whether or not there is a system in place to target them specifically in the response to crime in the country. I would like to apologize if the phrasing of my answer was a tad snarky, I just found that you were addressing the topic with way too broad a brush for an issue that is so extremely serious, far-reaching and bordering on institutional social management.