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> Rioting is one of the expected consequences when more peaceable ways to resolve problems - problems that threaten one's self or one's family's safety - prove

> Rioting is one of the expected consequences when more peaceable ways to resolve problems - problems that threaten one's self or one's family's safety - prove ineffective. Quite possibly, but irrelevant to the original poster's point. If rioters are physically endangering your home or your family or the place you work, you're not going to be in any mood then or afterwards to thoughtfully consider it from ten thousand feet.

dalke 11y ago
My response was directed to the immediate parent comment. As to the original question, riots don't just appear from nowhere. In your objection, you limited the time and space to just the time period around the riot, in which case your statement is completely valid. The start of my statement observes the longer span of time, and the frustrations and insecurities that put people to not be in the mood to "thoughtfully consider" something other than a riot. Your same point holds on that time scale as well, though it would be applied to a different group of people, and different but no less important feelings of endangerment and insecurity.
bigiain 11y ago
If the status quo the OP expresses a desire to maintain involves _other_ segments of the community being regularly shot and killed by police with zero accountability or even indication that their privileged segment of the community cares - why would the other side "be in any mood then or afterwards to thoughtfully consider it from ten thousand feet". He "feels threatened" for himself and his family/property. The "rioters" are from a community being shot by police with impunity - that's somewhat more serious than "feeling threatened". (Note: this is all from the 10,000km view from the opposite side of the planet - so I don't claim to have a dog in this fight or intimate knowledge of the situation of history here, this is all from my media and internet provided external view... But "entitled white people in restaurants" don't end up looking much like they deserve any sympathy for their fears or "endangerment")
- 13thLetter 11y ago
  > this is all from the 10,000km view from the opposite side of the planet And if the riot was 10,000 km closer to you and your family -- if you were the "entitled" person in the restaurant who didn't think they'd done anything wrong, but good luck telling the angry mob that -- I suspect your view would change very, very rapidly.

dalke 11y ago

My response was directed to the immediate parent comment. As to the original question, riots don't just appear from nowhere. In your objection, you limited the time and space to just the time period around the riot, in which case your statement is completely valid. The start of my statement observes the longer span of time, and the frustrations and insecurities that put people to not be in the mood to "thoughtfully consider" something other than a riot. Your same point holds on that time scale as well, though it would be applied to a different group of people, and different but no less important feelings of endangerment and insecurity.

bigiain 11y ago

If the status quo the OP expresses a desire to maintain involves _other_ segments of the community being regularly shot and killed by police with zero accountability or even indication that their privileged segment of the community cares - why would the other side "be in any mood then or afterwards to thoughtfully consider it from ten thousand feet". He "feels threatened" for himself and his family/property. The "rioters" are from a community being shot by police with impunity - that's somewhat more serious than "feeling threatened". (Note: this is all from the 10,000km view from the opposite side of the planet - so I don't claim to have a dog in this fight or intimate knowledge of the situation of history here, this is all from my media and internet provided external view... But "entitled white people in restaurants" don't end up looking much like they deserve any sympathy for their fears or "endangerment")

13thLetter 11y ago
> this is all from the 10,000km view from the opposite side of the planet And if the riot was 10,000 km closer to you and your family -- if you were the "entitled" person in the restaurant who didn't think they'd done anything wrong, but good luck telling the angry mob that -- I suspect your view would change very, very rapidly.