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So it literally was invented after a night of drinking at a bar. :-) I wonder about the origins of <marquee>.

by ssewell 11y ago

krapp 11y ago
Probably cocaine.
smacktoward 11y ago
MARQUEE started out as a "feature" of very early versions of Internet Explorer, as a way for IE to differentiate itself from Netscape. (Don't hate Microsoft too much for this -- they were just following the lead of Netscape, who had their own proprietary tags. Heck, IMG started out as a Netscape-only tag.) There was a real danger for a few years in the mid-'90s that competition between browsers would manifest itself in a proliferation of proprietary tags that only worked with one browser or another. The old "Best viewed with..." buttons that sites used to festoon themselves with (examples: http://cjihrig.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/best_viewed_with_ie_or_netscape.jpg http://cjihrig.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/best_view...) were an artifact of this; they advertised that a site used one browser or another's particular set of proprietary tags, which was how you positioned yourself as "cutting edge" in, say, 1996. Things are better now, thankfully. (Not much better, but better.)
- kuschku 11y ago
  "WhatsApp Web requires Chrome or Opera" "Google Inboxbeta only works in Chrome" I’d say things are just as bad as before
  - vcarl 11y ago
    True, but that's because whatever site can choose to rely on a cutting edge specced feature that the other browsers haven't implemented yet. At least it's not the 4 different companies trying to one-up each other.
    - kuschku 11y ago
      But that’s what previous browser wars also were about: one browser implements experimental technology, all websites target it, etc. Chrome has become the new IE in the meaning that it supports weird special stuff, but sometimes not the official W3C definition, and webapps rarely work on multiple browsers.
- chr 11y ago
  The IMG tag showed up before there was a Netscape. You know that venture giant, the 'A' in A16Z? Long time ago he was marca without the initial 'p', maintained an emacs clone called Epoch, and also hacked away on a web browser called Mosaic: http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q1/0182.html http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q1/0182.ht...
  - smacktoward 11y ago
    You're right, of course, I was mentally mixing up Mosaic with Netscape. I blame old age.
cbd1984 11y ago
> I wonder about the origins of <marquee> Probably invented by some lunatic.

So it literally was invented after a night of drinking at a bar. :-) I wonder about the origins of <marquee>.

by ssewell 11y ago

So it literally was invented after a night of drinking at a bar. :-) I wonder about the origins of <marquee>.

krapp 11y ago

Probably cocaine.

smacktoward 11y ago

MARQUEE started out as a "feature" of very early versions of Internet Explorer, as a way for IE to differentiate itself from Netscape. (Don't hate Microsoft too much for this -- they were just following the lead of Netscape, who had their own proprietary tags. Heck, IMG started out as a Netscape-only tag.) There was a real danger for a few years in the mid-'90s that competition between browsers would manifest itself in a proliferation of proprietary tags that only worked with one browser or another. The old "Best viewed with..." buttons that sites used to festoon themselves with (examples: http://cjihrig.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/best_viewed_with_ie_or_netscape.jpg http://cjihrig.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/best_view...) were an artifact of this; they advertised that a site used one browser or another's particular set of proprietary tags, which was how you positioned yourself as "cutting edge" in, say, 1996. Things are better now, thankfully. (Not much better, but better.)

kuschku 11y ago
"WhatsApp Web requires Chrome or Opera" "Google Inboxbeta only works in Chrome" I’d say things are just as bad as before
- vcarl 11y ago
  True, but that's because whatever site can choose to rely on a cutting edge specced feature that the other browsers haven't implemented yet. At least it's not the 4 different companies trying to one-up each other.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    But that’s what previous browser wars also were about: one browser implements experimental technology, all websites target it, etc. Chrome has become the new IE in the meaning that it supports weird special stuff, but sometimes not the official W3C definition, and webapps rarely work on multiple browsers.
chr 11y ago
The IMG tag showed up before there was a Netscape. You know that venture giant, the 'A' in A16Z? Long time ago he was marca without the initial 'p', maintained an emacs clone called Epoch, and also hacked away on a web browser called Mosaic: http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q1/0182.html http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q1/0182.ht...
- smacktoward 11y ago
  You're right, of course, I was mentally mixing up Mosaic with Netscape. I blame old age.

cbd1984 11y ago

> I wonder about the origins of <marquee> Probably invented by some lunatic.