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Sell files for Bitcoin

33 points by OneBtnCo 11y ago

OneBtnCo 11y ago
We're super excited to launch our 'sell files' feature! We launched OneButton a couple weeks ago with only the ability to link externally with your button. Now you can sell digital files, build mailing lists, and more! Here are a couple example pages: https://onebtn.co/i_make_music https://onebtn.co/i_make_music -- this example is selling a dance beat I personally made (though I'm much better at coding than making music). You can also use custom domains on your pages for free! http://YouCanUseDomains.com http://YouCanUseDomains.com
- Paul_S 11y ago
  Are you an escrow service? Do you mediate disputes?
  - bduerst 11y ago
    It's bitcoin, so of course not. Just looking at their terms confirms this. Even if they did multi-sig, how would they validate that the file isn't a lemon?
- Albright 11y ago
  Thanks for explaining it, I guess, because your web site sure doesn't. The about page is worse than useless.
  - OneBtnCo 11y ago
    You're right. This is one of the top priorities of ours to update.
- ryan-c 11y ago
  Why is an email address required?
  - OneBtnCo 11y ago
    To purchase or to sign up? Emails are required to purchase as download links are sent to users upon purchasing ( in addition to being redirected to the download page ).
Fastidious 11y ago
In total there is a 13% fee (that includes Stripe fee). What is the real advantage of using your service? How do you handle the selling of pirated material?
- OneBtnCo 11y ago
  OneButton is a website generator, not just a product page. Users can add their own domain name, etc. We're like Squarespace meets Gumroad (and will soon have more features on the 'squarespace' side of things). We plan on dropping the fee to around 5% soon, but we want to make sure that we won't lose money doing that. We decided to launch with a 10% fee to make sure we don't lose a bunch of money on hosting fees. Our first target for marketing will be musicians as an alternative to Bandcamp (which charges a 15% fee + paypal fees). Regarding pirated material, we'll remove anything we find that falls into that category. We'll soon have a reporting feature, etc. That said, in order to sell users have to verify their identity with Stripe, so we don't expect to have a ton of illegal stuff going on.
  - striking 11y ago
    So, all of the flakiness of Bitcoin with none of the anonymity. I'm a little confused by this concept.
Gusfoo_2 11y ago
Not useful for me at this moment but I wish you luck.
gesman 11y ago
"Our fees are just 10% per successful transaction in addition to Stripe's fees. These fees are deducted from sales automatically." Please remove "just" word. Or replace it with "EXORBITANT" to reflect the true value.
- OneBtnCo 11y ago
  Hosting is not cheap and we don't have a ton of money right now to host stuff at a loss. We plan to drop this to 5% in the near future if we won't lose money by doing so.
  - tyre 11y ago
    I'm glad you're focused on a sustainable business model, but try to connect cost with value. If I sell an album on your site for $1000 or $10, it doesn't cost you any extra but my fees are 100x. If hosting is an issue, create monthly plans based on usage or additional features. That's your value, that's where the business cost is, so that's what users are paying for. You aren't a payments company, so don't make your money on payments.
    - OneBtnCo 11y ago
      I think you're probably right. Going to do some thinking on better approaches to this. Thanks
      - bduerst 11y ago
        Do you delete files after they are purchased and downloaded, or do they persist? How long? Are you encrypting the files on your storage servers in case you're subpoenaed? How can I verify the file is what is described, before I pay for it?
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lost_name 11y ago
I don't have a use for it, but I like the simplicity. Maybe this is a strange question, but why no pornographic material? I'm more curious about why you'd bother to single it more out than anything else. It seems to me that that particular type of thing (images and videos as opposed to games and apps) would be a much broader use case.
- OneBtnCo 11y ago
  Just worried about legal implications of hosting pornographic content. We may allow this in the future but don't want to do so without making sure everything is in the clear.
thatha7777 11y ago
Gumroad lets you do this for PayPal & Credit Cards, and it charges 5% flat—not on top of payment processing fees.
- OneBtnCo 11y ago
  We're more focused on website creation as opposed to being a payments company. The fee will be dropped to 5% as soon as we make sure we won't lose money on hosting fees. Soon we'll have more squarespace-like features on the website creation side of things and will likely charge for features along those lines ( monthly hosting plans ), while dropping our fees per sales to equal cost ( as suggested by another user in this thread ).
xrjn 11y ago
Could you add an examples page? I think it would be easier for potential clients to understand what you're offering, as well as gather inspiration, if you distinctly show a demo of how each page type works (without having to sign up).

33 points by OneBtnCo 11y ago

We're super excited to launch our 'sell files' feature! We launched OneButton a couple weeks ago with only the ability to link externally with your button. Now you can sell digital files, build mailing lists, and more! Here are a couple example pages: https://onebtn.co/i_make_music https://onebtn.co/i_make_music -- this example is selling a dance beat I personally made (though I'm much better at coding than making music). You can also use custom domains on your pages for free! http://YouCanUseDomains.com http://YouCanUseDomains.com

Paul_S 11y ago
Are you an escrow service? Do you mediate disputes?
- bduerst 11y ago
  It's bitcoin, so of course not. Just looking at their terms confirms this. Even if they did multi-sig, how would they validate that the file isn't a lemon?
Albright 11y ago
Thanks for explaining it, I guess, because your web site sure doesn't. The about page is worse than useless.
- OneBtnCo 11y ago
  You're right. This is one of the top priorities of ours to update.
ryan-c 11y ago
Why is an email address required?
- OneBtnCo 11y ago
  To purchase or to sign up? Emails are required to purchase as download links are sent to users upon purchasing ( in addition to being redirected to the download page ).

Fastidious 11y ago

In total there is a 13% fee (that includes Stripe fee). What is the real advantage of using your service? How do you handle the selling of pirated material?

OneBtnCo 11y ago
OneButton is a website generator, not just a product page. Users can add their own domain name, etc. We're like Squarespace meets Gumroad (and will soon have more features on the 'squarespace' side of things). We plan on dropping the fee to around 5% soon, but we want to make sure that we won't lose money doing that. We decided to launch with a 10% fee to make sure we don't lose a bunch of money on hosting fees. Our first target for marketing will be musicians as an alternative to Bandcamp (which charges a 15% fee + paypal fees). Regarding pirated material, we'll remove anything we find that falls into that category. We'll soon have a reporting feature, etc. That said, in order to sell users have to verify their identity with Stripe, so we don't expect to have a ton of illegal stuff going on.
- striking 11y ago
  So, all of the flakiness of Bitcoin with none of the anonymity. I'm a little confused by this concept.

Gusfoo_2 11y ago

Not useful for me at this moment but I wish you luck.

gesman 11y ago

"Our fees are just 10% per successful transaction in addition to Stripe's fees. These fees are deducted from sales automatically." Please remove "just" word. Or replace it with "EXORBITANT" to reflect the true value.

OneBtnCo 11y ago
Hosting is not cheap and we don't have a ton of money right now to host stuff at a loss. We plan to drop this to 5% in the near future if we won't lose money by doing so.
- tyre 11y ago
  I'm glad you're focused on a sustainable business model, but try to connect cost with value. If I sell an album on your site for $1000 or $10, it doesn't cost you any extra but my fees are 100x. If hosting is an issue, create monthly plans based on usage or additional features. That's your value, that's where the business cost is, so that's what users are paying for. You aren't a payments company, so don't make your money on payments.
  - OneBtnCo 11y ago
    I think you're probably right. Going to do some thinking on better approaches to this. Thanks
    - bduerst 11y ago
      Do you delete files after they are purchased and downloaded, or do they persist? How long? Are you encrypting the files on your storage servers in case you're subpoenaed? How can I verify the file is what is described, before I pay for it?
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lost_name 11y ago

I don't have a use for it, but I like the simplicity. Maybe this is a strange question, but why no pornographic material? I'm more curious about why you'd bother to single it more out than anything else. It seems to me that that particular type of thing (images and videos as opposed to games and apps) would be a much broader use case.

OneBtnCo 11y ago
Just worried about legal implications of hosting pornographic content. We may allow this in the future but don't want to do so without making sure everything is in the clear.

thatha7777 11y ago

Gumroad lets you do this for PayPal & Credit Cards, and it charges 5% flat—not on top of payment processing fees.

OneBtnCo 11y ago
We're more focused on website creation as opposed to being a payments company. The fee will be dropped to 5% as soon as we make sure we won't lose money on hosting fees. Soon we'll have more squarespace-like features on the website creation side of things and will likely charge for features along those lines ( monthly hosting plans ), while dropping our fees per sales to equal cost ( as suggested by another user in this thread ).

xrjn 11y ago

Could you add an examples page? I think it would be easier for potential clients to understand what you're offering, as well as gather inspiration, if you distinctly show a demo of how each page type works (without having to sign up).