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Chromium is an open source branch of chrome, offered as a convenience. It is not a standalone product with its own goals. Shouldn't there be a "Chromium-Privacy

Chromium is an open source branch of chrome, offered as a convenience. It is not a standalone product with its own goals. Shouldn't there be a "Chromium-Privacy" project that branches Chromium and reviews code changes, to keep it aligned with such goals?

slasaus 11y ago
> Shouldn't there be a "Chromium-Privacy" project that branches Chromium and reviews code changes, to keep it aligned with such goals? Maybe Iridium is what you're looking for. From their fp: > Iridium is a free, open, and libre browser modification of the Chromium code base, with privacy being enhanced in several key areas. Automatic transmission of partial queries, keywords, metrics to central services inhibited and only occurs with consent. In addition, all our builds are reproducible, and modifications are auditable, setting the project ahead of other secure browser providers. https://iridiumbrowser.de/ https://iridiumbrowser.de/
- kentonv 11y ago
  Unfortunately these forks -- of which there are many -- often fall behind Chromium's security updates and even introduce serious bugs of their own. E.g. "WhiteHat Aviator", another "security-oriented" fork, had this fiasco: https://plus.google.com/+JustinSchuh/posts/69qw9wZVH8z https://plus.google.com/+JustinSchuh/posts/69qw9wZVH8z Maybe Iridium has a better record but with so few eyes on them it's hard to have much confidence. Probably the best thing to do if you're worried about Chromium spying on you is to use Firefox.
  - tptacek 11y ago
    More went wrong with Aviator than that: they munged up the code rebranding it and made it much harder to track upstream. It also didn't start out open source!
jsprogrammer 11y ago
>It is not a standalone product with its own goals. Uh, what? >Chromium is an open-source browser project that aims to build a safer, faster, and more stable way for all users to experience the web. [0] [0] https://www.chromium.org/Home https://www.chromium.org/Home
- mod 11y ago
  > Chromium is the name we have given to the open source project and the browser source code that we released and maintain at www.chromium.org. One can compile this source code to get a fully working browser. Google takes this source code, and adds on the Google name and logo, an auto-updater system called GoogleUpdate, and RLZ (described later in this post), and calls this Google Chrome. As such, everything which applies to Chromium below also applies to Google Chrome http://blog.chromium.org/2008/10/google-chrome-chromium-and-google.html http://blog.chromium.org/2008/10/google-chrome-chromium-and-...
  - jsprogrammer 11y ago
    Yep, it's its own project. Google then takes that project and wraps their proprietary pieces around it.
BrainInAJar 11y ago
Privacy is not in Google's interests, so they aren't likely to help with any such effort, and I suspect the number of non-Google contributors is pretty low.
stanleydrew 11y ago
It's not a branch. It is the base of Chrome. See the sibling comment from mod here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10433435 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10433435
swiley 11y ago
Have you ever tried hacking on any of Google's "open source" projects? Android is ~100GB just to download for example, but I think chromium is smaller.

slasaus 11y ago

> Shouldn't there be a "Chromium-Privacy" project that branches Chromium and reviews code changes, to keep it aligned with such goals? Maybe Iridium is what you're looking for. From their fp: > Iridium is a free, open, and libre browser modification of the Chromium code base, with privacy being enhanced in several key areas. Automatic transmission of partial queries, keywords, metrics to central services inhibited and only occurs with consent. In addition, all our builds are reproducible, and modifications are auditable, setting the project ahead of other secure browser providers. https://iridiumbrowser.de/ https://iridiumbrowser.de/

kentonv 11y ago
Unfortunately these forks -- of which there are many -- often fall behind Chromium's security updates and even introduce serious bugs of their own. E.g. "WhiteHat Aviator", another "security-oriented" fork, had this fiasco: https://plus.google.com/+JustinSchuh/posts/69qw9wZVH8z https://plus.google.com/+JustinSchuh/posts/69qw9wZVH8z Maybe Iridium has a better record but with so few eyes on them it's hard to have much confidence. Probably the best thing to do if you're worried about Chromium spying on you is to use Firefox.
- tptacek 11y ago
  More went wrong with Aviator than that: they munged up the code rebranding it and made it much harder to track upstream. It also didn't start out open source!

jsprogrammer 11y ago

>It is not a standalone product with its own goals. Uh, what? >Chromium is an open-source browser project that aims to build a safer, faster, and more stable way for all users to experience the web. [0] [0] https://www.chromium.org/Home https://www.chromium.org/Home

mod 11y ago
> Chromium is the name we have given to the open source project and the browser source code that we released and maintain at www.chromium.org. One can compile this source code to get a fully working browser. Google takes this source code, and adds on the Google name and logo, an auto-updater system called GoogleUpdate, and RLZ (described later in this post), and calls this Google Chrome. As such, everything which applies to Chromium below also applies to Google Chrome http://blog.chromium.org/2008/10/google-chrome-chromium-and-google.html http://blog.chromium.org/2008/10/google-chrome-chromium-and-...
- jsprogrammer 11y ago
  Yep, it's its own project. Google then takes that project and wraps their proprietary pieces around it.

BrainInAJar 11y ago

Privacy is not in Google's interests, so they aren't likely to help with any such effort, and I suspect the number of non-Google contributors is pretty low.

stanleydrew 11y ago

It's not a branch. It is the base of Chrome. See the sibling comment from mod here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10433435 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10433435

swiley 11y ago

Have you ever tried hacking on any of Google's "open source" projects? Android is ~100GB just to download for example, but I think chromium is smaller.