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Most companies will, understandably, shy away from letting you take your Salesforce info with you. Closed systems are beneficial to employers. Telling companies

Most companies will, understandably, shy away from letting you take your Salesforce info with you. Closed systems are beneficial to employers. Telling companies to throw away some of their competitive advantages (e.g. distribution lists, best customers, etc...) in the name of open-source, decentralized identity is, I believe, an impossible sell.

nickbauman 11y ago
Agree. But what if the concept is too important to be allowed to be owned by a company? What if TCP/IP were AOL/IP? Would we even be here now? I doubt it.
- jsprogrammer 11y ago
  See PUP [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_Universal_Packet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_Universal_Packet
thwarted 11y ago
While this is specifically referring to statistics in the OP: This new setup makes it possible to take something with me. Github doesn’t exploit this yet (as far as I know), but for instance, it could allow me to keep some statistics, such as how many commits did I make to code of an organization. Or in the case of Salesforce, how much did I generate in leads or revenues. it doesn't mention taking distribution lists or best customers, although nothing is really stopping you from taking those things even without distributed identity. However, distributed identity is more valuable from the standpoint of authenticating someone. It is still up to the company/organization to manage the authorization aspects of their resources, binding specific capabilities and authorizations to their employees/users authentications.
Animats 11y ago
"Most companies will, understandably, shy away from letting you take your Salesforce info with you. Closed systems are beneficial to employers." This is an old issue in sales. When a sales rep leaves, do they take their customers with them? It varies with the industry, and it's something that top sales people negotiate when they take a job. Since they will be bringing in customers, they insist on taking them when they leave.

nickbauman 11y ago

Agree. But what if the concept is too important to be allowed to be owned by a company? What if TCP/IP were AOL/IP? Would we even be here now? I doubt it.

jsprogrammer 11y ago
See PUP [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_Universal_Packet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_Universal_Packet

thwarted 11y ago

While this is specifically referring to statistics in the OP: This new setup makes it possible to take something with me. Github doesn’t exploit this yet (as far as I know), but for instance, it could allow me to keep some statistics, such as how many commits did I make to code of an organization. Or in the case of Salesforce, how much did I generate in leads or revenues. it doesn't mention taking distribution lists or best customers, although nothing is really stopping you from taking those things even without distributed identity. However, distributed identity is more valuable from the standpoint of authenticating someone. It is still up to the company/organization to manage the authorization aspects of their resources, binding specific capabilities and authorizations to their employees/users authentications.

Animats 11y ago

"Most companies will, understandably, shy away from letting you take your Salesforce info with you. Closed systems are beneficial to employers." This is an old issue in sales. When a sales rep leaves, do they take their customers with them? It varies with the industry, and it's something that top sales people negotiate when they take a job. Since they will be bringing in customers, they insist on taking them when they leave.