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You are the type of person I was hoping not to encounter! The kool-aid drinkers. I don't like Clojure or ClojureScript. They are both awful by virtue of the p

You are the type of person I was hoping not to encounter! The kool-aid drinkers. I don't like Clojure or ClojureScript. They are both awful by virtue of the platform they exist on. I would like very much if Clojure had a core lisp KLambda, because I could abstract Clojure onto a platform that wasn't terrible. Rich is a guy who (whether consciously or otherwise) hated writing Java and decided that functional programming worked, and that Lisp did too. Clojure is a strange abomination from the points of view of those in the pure-functional family, and those from the paren-dimension, but I find that Clojure code reads easily, and comes off far more expressive than that of Python or Ruby or other so-called expressive languages. When someone who uses the JVM tells me that something I know to be true is 'fundamentally flawed' I become fearful for myself, that I might drown in irony.

dang 11y ago
> You are the type of person I was hoping not to encounter! Personal attacks are not allowed on Hacker News. I'm sure you can express your thoughts about programming languages without them. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- too_late 11y ago
  I'm sure you can mind my own business for me, maybe I should even let you write my next comment? Would you like to see my papers?
  - dang 11y ago
    Let me try this again. There are rules here, and we ban accounts that break them. Please read them, and post civilly and substantively or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html To anticipate the objection, no, this hasn't a fig to do with political correctness. It's about trying to preserve HN as a place where people want to come for substantive discussion. I'm sure many of us agree with your views on Lisp; that doesn't mean you get to be an arsonist. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10432280 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10432280 and marked it off-topic.
    - too_late 11y ago
      I've been banned from HN plenty of times before. It hasn't stopped me in years past and it won't now. Anytime you try and suppress a rebuttal with "I know you're about to say..." it's basically a cop-out. I won't bother giving you a detailed response that you'll respond with something like "Yeah but your language was inflammatory" If a guy doesn't 'agree' with what I've spent years studying as if his opinion somehow trumps the facts and research, that's fine. I hold the opinion that it's within my rights to break him down over it. I don't get to be anything. I haven't attacked anyone in this thread yet, I've only used my words, and like I mentioned, I've been banned off probably a dozen other accounts here on HN, but it won't prevent me from coming back and making sure that my voice is heard. Maybe political correctness isn't the right word, but the concept behind the phrase is exactly what it's about. Suppression of things offensive is a specialty of HN, demonstrable by many banned accounts and hidden conversations. What you can't undo though is that a few people read what I had to say. I know that shadowbanning and the like goes on, and it doesn't really make a difference as long as a few people here and there see that stuff before it disappears.
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dang 11y ago

> You are the type of person I was hoping not to encounter! Personal attacks are not allowed on Hacker News. I'm sure you can express your thoughts about programming languages without them. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

too_late 11y ago
I'm sure you can mind my own business for me, maybe I should even let you write my next comment? Would you like to see my papers?
- dang 11y ago
  Let me try this again. There are rules here, and we ban accounts that break them. Please read them, and post civilly and substantively or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html To anticipate the objection, no, this hasn't a fig to do with political correctness. It's about trying to preserve HN as a place where people want to come for substantive discussion. I'm sure many of us agree with your views on Lisp; that doesn't mean you get to be an arsonist. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10432280 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10432280 and marked it off-topic.
  - too_late 11y ago
    I've been banned from HN plenty of times before. It hasn't stopped me in years past and it won't now. Anytime you try and suppress a rebuttal with "I know you're about to say..." it's basically a cop-out. I won't bother giving you a detailed response that you'll respond with something like "Yeah but your language was inflammatory" If a guy doesn't 'agree' with what I've spent years studying as if his opinion somehow trumps the facts and research, that's fine. I hold the opinion that it's within my rights to break him down over it. I don't get to be anything. I haven't attacked anyone in this thread yet, I've only used my words, and like I mentioned, I've been banned off probably a dozen other accounts here on HN, but it won't prevent me from coming back and making sure that my voice is heard. Maybe political correctness isn't the right word, but the concept behind the phrase is exactly what it's about. Suppression of things offensive is a specialty of HN, demonstrable by many banned accounts and hidden conversations. What you can't undo though is that a few people read what I had to say. I know that shadowbanning and the like goes on, and it doesn't really make a difference as long as a few people here and there see that stuff before it disappears.

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