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I can lucid dream without this easily. Just requires focus until you drift into your REM state then it takes over.

by EC1 11y ago

mskylion 11y ago
Sure! There is no magic behind this, but for most people it is very hard to get there. Not everyone will have enough power of will to teach themselves control their dream plot.
Danilka 11y ago
Lucky you! I've bought multiple devices in the past and they still wouldn't help. Nothing using brainwaves though. Was it always easy or did you have to practice a lot?
- EC1 11y ago
  Instead of drifting off into sleep focus on a narrative. I try to imagine myself doing things and create new characters as I go, I do this until I notice the sides of third eye start to go blurry and colours start to pour in, that's how I know I'm sleeping. No practice, just came naturally to me. Learned this while on shrooms and focusing on the visuals, then tried it off them.
  - Danilka 11y ago
    I'll try that, thanks! I'd love to chat more about this. Can I add you on skype or something?
    - EC1 11y ago
      Added.
- nickpsecurity 11y ago
  EC1's advice about a narrative is good. Also, try to just passively let the transition happen rather than forcing or worrying about it. Hard part for many. One thing others haven't brought up is how LD and astral projection experiments showed conscious mind is weak/short-lasting and subconscious mind is strong/long-lasting. So try to leverage latter. Repetition and sensory input (visualization) are nest ways to prime the subconscious. You just get it into back of your mind enough that it (a) adds to starting it and (b) keeps it going once conscious mind drifts off. I'll give you an interesting example of utilizing subconscious. Monroe wanted to have Out of Body Experience but couldn't consciously separate: stayed fully awake or asleep. So, he dehydrated himself for days while repeatedly getting up from bed to fill a glass from sink then pour it out. Thirst was hard to ignore but he did. Also did heart slowdowns and physical relaxation to make his body sleep each night. One night he went to kitchen to get water but his hand went right through the faucet. Went back to find himself in bed, resulting in instant awakening. Hallucination or spirit, the reason he went OBE and lucid was the repetitive influence of his subconscious to go for thd sink when thirsty with the cheat of being thirsty constantly. His mind turned off, subconscious did as programmed, and woke him up in mid-dream. Cool, eh? All kinds of programming that's less extreme.

I can lucid dream without this easily. Just requires focus until you drift into your REM state then it takes over.

by EC1 11y ago

I can lucid dream without this easily. Just requires focus until you drift into your REM state then it takes over.

Sure! There is no magic behind this, but for most people it is very hard to get there. Not everyone will have enough power of will to teach themselves control their dream plot.

Danilka 11y ago

Lucky you! I've bought multiple devices in the past and they still wouldn't help. Nothing using brainwaves though. Was it always easy or did you have to practice a lot?

EC1 11y ago
Instead of drifting off into sleep focus on a narrative. I try to imagine myself doing things and create new characters as I go, I do this until I notice the sides of third eye start to go blurry and colours start to pour in, that's how I know I'm sleeping. No practice, just came naturally to me. Learned this while on shrooms and focusing on the visuals, then tried it off them.
- Danilka 11y ago
  I'll try that, thanks! I'd love to chat more about this. Can I add you on skype or something?
  - EC1 11y ago
    Added.
nickpsecurity 11y ago
EC1's advice about a narrative is good. Also, try to just passively let the transition happen rather than forcing or worrying about it. Hard part for many. One thing others haven't brought up is how LD and astral projection experiments showed conscious mind is weak/short-lasting and subconscious mind is strong/long-lasting. So try to leverage latter. Repetition and sensory input (visualization) are nest ways to prime the subconscious. You just get it into back of your mind enough that it (a) adds to starting it and (b) keeps it going once conscious mind drifts off. I'll give you an interesting example of utilizing subconscious. Monroe wanted to have Out of Body Experience but couldn't consciously separate: stayed fully awake or asleep. So, he dehydrated himself for days while repeatedly getting up from bed to fill a glass from sink then pour it out. Thirst was hard to ignore but he did. Also did heart slowdowns and physical relaxation to make his body sleep each night. One night he went to kitchen to get water but his hand went right through the faucet. Went back to find himself in bed, resulting in instant awakening. Hallucination or spirit, the reason he went OBE and lucid was the repetitive influence of his subconscious to go for thd sink when thirsty with the cheat of being thirsty constantly. His mind turned off, subconscious did as programmed, and woke him up in mid-dream. Cool, eh? All kinds of programming that's less extreme.