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This is like if intel released their own CPU benchmarking software.

• sid0 17y ago
  How so? Microsoft Research is pretty independent of the product divisions, so much so that I think it should be looked at as a separate company.
  • niyazpk 17y ago
    An independent company would talk about fixing IE rather than blaming the benchmarks.
    • sid0 17y ago
      Do you actually have a counter-claim against the paper or are you simply resorting to ad hominem? Your argument, as it currently stands, is a DH1. edit: full disclosure, I'll be interning at MSR (different group) in the summer.
      • niyazpk 17y ago
        You are correct. It was a DH1 reply. The last sentence from the webpage: We hope our results will convince the JavaScript community to develop and adopt benchmarks that are more representative of real web applications. I am a web developer and over the years I have suffered a lot and wasted a lot of time just because the different IE releases did not conform to the existing web standards. It just doesn't feel right when MS try to convince the JavaScript community about something while they ignored the recurring demands of the same community in order to push their proprietary standards and extend their monopoly. I am not trying to defend my argument, but just trying to express the thought process that led me to the argument.
        • sid0 17y ago
          > I am a web developer and over the years I have suffered a lot and wasted a lot of time just because the different IE releases did not conform to the existing web standards. But the linked paper has absolutely nothing to do with standards. It deals with the speeds of different JavaScript engines and how representative speed benchmarks are of real web sites. > It just doesn't feel right when MS try to convince the JavaScript community about something As I said, it's best to look at MSR as a separate company. I spent a few weeks there a month ago, and the atmosphere is much more that of a university research lab than a software company.