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Luciding – Induce Lucid Dreaming Through Transcranial Stimulation
- thoughtsimple 11y agoRussian web store. not working.
- asciimo 11y agoI just started poking around the Internet for more on this topic. I found this study (http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v17/n6/full/nn.3719.html http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v17/n6/full/nn.3719.html) which indirectly led me to this blog post (http://www.diytdcs.com/tag/lucid-dreaming/ http://www.diytdcs.com/tag/lucid-dreaming/), which led me to this subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/tDCS/ https://www.reddit.com/r/tDCS/), which led me to this Vice article (http://motherboard.vice.com/read/we-wore-electrodes-to-bed-to-induce-lucid-dreaming http://motherboard.vice.com/read/we-wore-electrodes-to-bed-t...).
- mskylion 11y agoYes, this is a new emerging market. But soon everyone will realize that they don't want to spend 1/3 of their lives just sleeping. As there is such an incredible opportunity which can be easily reached with our wearable.
- nickpsecurity 11y agoIt's an old market dating back to the 80's that's getting popular again. Called us Reality Hackers at one point. I like that name for more than it's original purpose.
- mizzao 11y agoI'd love to try this to induce lucid dreaming, but I'm not sure about the unknown health risks of electrical stimulation to my head for hours.
- mskylion 11y agoGlad to hear that! But the truth is that stimulation lasts for several seconds each REM phase. If you have any other questions I will be glad to answer.
- Danilka 11y agoI know the founders. The product is great. They've actually put a lot of R&D hours behind it.
- EC1 11y agoI can lucid dream without this easily. Just requires focus until you drift into your REM state then it takes over.
- mskylion 11y agoSure! There is no magic behind this, but for most people it is very hard to get there. Not everyone will have enough power of will to teach themselves control their dream plot.
- Danilka 11y agoLucky you! I've bought multiple devices in the past and they still wouldn't help. Nothing using brainwaves though. Was it always easy or did you have to practice a lot?
- EC1 11y agoInstead of drifting off into sleep focus on a narrative. I try to imagine myself doing things and create new characters as I go, I do this until I notice the sides of third eye start to go blurry and colours start to pour in, that's how I know I'm sleeping. No practice, just came naturally to me. Learned this while on shrooms and focusing on the visuals, then tried it off them.
- nickpsecurity 11y agoEC1's advice about a narrative is good. Also, try to just passively let the transition happen rather than forcing or worrying about it. Hard part for many. One thing others haven't brought up is how LD and astral projection experiments showed conscious mind is weak/short-lasting and subconscious mind is strong/long-lasting. So try to leverage latter. Repetition and sensory input (visualization) are nest ways to prime the subconscious. You just get it into back of your mind enough that it (a) adds to starting it and (b) keeps it going once conscious mind drifts off. I'll give you an interesting example of utilizing subconscious. Monroe wanted to have Out of Body Experience but couldn't consciously separate: stayed fully awake or asleep. So, he dehydrated himself for days while repeatedly getting up from bed to fill a glass from sink then pour it out. Thirst was hard to ignore but he did. Also did heart slowdowns and physical relaxation to make his body sleep each night. One night he went to kitchen to get water but his hand went right through the faucet. Went back to find himself in bed, resulting in instant awakening. Hallucination or spirit, the reason he went OBE and lucid was the repetitive influence of his subconscious to go for thd sink when thirsty with the cheat of being thirsty constantly. His mind turned off, subconscious did as programmed, and woke him up in mid-dream. Cool, eh? All kinds of programming that's less extreme.
- digitalronin 11y agoI'm sorry, but the website is virtually unusable. A few barely-comprehensible paragraphs of hyperbolic sales talk, and links to the shop. Explain to me what your product does, and why I should care, and I might be interested.
- mskylion 11y agoThanks for the feedback! Luciding reinvents the traditional understanding of dreaming. All you need to do is to put on our headband device and go to sleep. The device detects REM sleep and pushes mild electronic stimulation. Your consciousness wakes up in a dream and you can control your dream. You can visit our social network pages for more and ask more specific questions here. I would also recommend visiting our blog post with some feedback: http://blog.luciding.com/luciding-first-customers-feedback-official/ http://blog.luciding.com/luciding-first-customers-feedback-o...
- Karunamon 11y agoPlease for the love of sanity, take this advice to heart! Just having "A smart headband and an application to induce lucid dreams" on the landing page would go miles!
- amadeusw 11y agoPrice listed in the store: 20,700.00p. = USD 328
- Geee 11y agoWhat currency is p? And what is that 50% tax (Europe / USA tax depending on location)?
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- adrianmacneil 11y agoWorst scrolling of any website of any website I've ever used. I can't get it to stop on the second slide. Seriously people, when can we drop this obsession with landing pages that hijack the scroll bar and turn a document into some sort of slide show? I just want to scroll down and read your content, but instead I'm forced to try touching my trackpad in various spurts trying to get it to stop when needed.
- ghrifter 11y agoFront end devs or some graphic designer. Its good for marketing a product as long as its kept to like under 5 items. For showing data/information, it is a terrible way to do it. I dont want to read a powerpoint presentation.
- adrianmacneil 11y agoEven with 5 items, it's bad. It would be better if they just disabled scrolling altogether and gave me a big "next" button to click on - at least then it would be possible to reach a discrete slide. I think this might have looked good on whatever device it was designed for (I'm guessing PC+mouse), but as soon as you try to interact with it using a trackpad or mobile the experience turns to shit.
- david-given 11y agoAt least it has a scroll bar. It works really badly, in that it doesn't actually scroll the page, but it's there. I have seen this kind of page which didn't. The scroll wheel is interestingly broken, though. It looks like a single movement triggers a transition to the next slide, and then all input is ignored for a couple of seconds. The same applies to the keyboard, so pressing the down arrow key a couple of times will move once. I know the people behind the site are here, reading these comments, so I don't want to sound rude, but... I'm really interested in lucid dreaming, not being able to do it myself, so I am precisely the target market for this device, and even I am finding myself turned off by this website. It's actively hampering marketing the product.
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- reborn426 11y agoCertainly an intriguing product.
- insiderq 11y agoThey have more information the their fb page facebook.com/luciding
- ErikRogneby 11y agoLucid dreaming is exhausting. When I was younger I trained myself to maintain that thread of control as a fell asleep. It is an incredibly powerful experience to be able to command every aspect of reality. I didn't wake up rested though, it was the exact opposite. Managing both my own actions and decisions and the entire world I was interacting with wiped me out. As a side note, it was much harder to learn to stop doing it, than to start.
- david-given 11y agoI can't do it (or rather, it's happened maybe once or twice in my life) --- I don't have a strong enough grasp of reality! When I'm in a dream, I am playing the character in the dream, so any strange events will always come across as completely normal to me. Which means most of the standard lucid dreaming tricks won't work on me. Interestingly, however, I do get another thing, which I haven't seen described anywhere, which I'll dub false memory syndrome: while in the hypnogogic state on the edge of sleep, sometimes my memory will change. I'll still be me, unlike with ordinary dreaming, but with a whole new backstory. Unfortunately I don't remember the new backstory afterwards, so all I retain are second-order memories; memories of thinking about the backstory. e.g. once I was suddenly convinced I'd committed some sort of crime or other, and was wondering whether to try and run or resign myself to going to prison. No idea what the crime was now (I'd quite like to know what my subconscious was worried about). This has happened to me so often I will occasionally think, hmm, this is odd, I wonder if it's false memory syndrome again? Which is a classic lucid memory trigger. Except I'm not really asleep, and I will always decide that it's not. After waking up from the one described above, I was really relieved to find out that it really was false memory syndrome. ...hang on, the police are at the door.
- Danilka 11y agoThe device is build exactly for the people like you!
- nickpsecurity 11y agoYou should avoid lucid dreaming. It can fuck up your mind if it already is too flexible in how it handles memory or reality. False memory syndrome + strong, lucid experiences that mimick aspects of your real life (including relationships) seem quite risky. Neat as it is, one's sanity is a much more rewarding experience. :)
- Danilka 11y agoWait! This is like the only thing today that can actually offer to ride a HOVERBOARD! (well, in your dreams, but it would be just as real) Quick, you have another 50 minutes to fulfil the promise before Marty and Doc arrive in their shiny band new DeLorean!
- Mizza 11y agoI hope this isn't snake oil, but for some reason I don't feel like letting Russians who can't even make a proper website strap a big electromagnet to my head.
- dang 11y ago> Russians That reads like you intended it as a slur. If so, not cool.
- insiderq 11y agoWe are a team from Siberia and Ukraine working together to deliver lucid dreams to everyone interested! Please, refer to our blog for first customers feedback - http://blog.luciding.com/luciding-first-customers-feedback-official/ http://blog.luciding.com/luciding-first-customers-feedback-o...
- mmvvaa 11y agoI didn't know how to put this into words. I think you got it. The site is so squeeky, I don't want to have the same anywhere near my brain.
- mskylion 11y agoThanks to your feedback we have fixed the website, so enjoy!
- aidenn0 11y agoIs this TMS or TDCS?
- insiderq 11y agoIt is tACS
- seoguru 11y agocoincidence: watched this interesting 53 minute interview of Charlie Morley about lucid dreaming last night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwpPbZZxFwY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwpPbZZxFwY
- insiderq 11y agoWe are working with Charlie and he is waiting for our device!
- nickpsecurity 11y agoPeople interested in this topic should look up Monroe's Hemi Synch, old books on Lucid Dreaming (esp "reality checks"), reality hackers, and so on. Not endorsing any specific source rather than showing where most info was in 80's and 90's. This stuff goes way back. Easiest method takes persistence rather than tech. Try to remember dreams, write details in journal each morning, and use reality checks all thfough the day until they're habit. Look those up on net as there's good examples. My favorites are how, in dreams, (a) mirrors oftdn have no reflection and (b) text you write changes if you look away then back again. Also regular naps in day with high REM. A few weeks in you will look into a mirror and see nothing. Lucid. ;) Just don't do it if you have mental disorders or high stress. After all, it amplifies what's in your mind and you want to be in control.
- Gatsky 11y agoI think the site is ok. But if I can offer some constructive criticism, the english needs to be fixed: "It is really ahead of time among Lucid Dreaming enhancement devices and technologies." "Live out an extremely unforgettable night experience with the device that literally tunes on your dreams!"
- devindotcom 11y agoI have a question about lucid dreaming. Is there a reliable way to tell the difference between a lucid dream and, essentially, dreaming that you are having a lucid dream, because you are preoccupied with the idea? Seems like if you are constantly working at, reading of, and hearing about lucid dreaming, the idea would make it into your dreams, lucid or not.
- insiderq 11y agoThe device will make you aware that you are sleeping several times in one night. That is almost impossible in case of placebo effect.
- nickpsecurity 11y agoAwareness is the key. When lucid, you will realize the world around you is fake, your thoughts won't be scripted, you might change things with focus, and the dream may even implode (you wake up) seconds after first awareness. Easiest way to know difference is keep asking if you're dreaming. Right now, something is in your mind that knows you're awake that you don't feel in dreams and not for long in lucid ones. Plus, lucid dreams break rules of reality in obvious or subtle ways you'll spot. Persistent awareness of this means you'll eventually notice a discrepency from habitual checks and wake up instantly (in dream or in reality).
- kritischer 11y agoHow do I purchase this in the US?
- mskylion 11y agoPlease, contact us via page messaging here -https://www.facebook.com/luciding https://www.facebook.com/luciding
- kritischer 11y agoHow do I purchase this in the US?