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If there's ever a time to build a youtube competitor or promote your own, now would be it.

by milge 11y ago

Bedon292 11y ago
While it can definitely be perceived as bullying, what reason would someone have not to want to support the new mode? They will get revenue from their content, and that revenue doesn't get killed by ad blockers either. Where is the down side?
anon4 11y ago
Yeah, unlike youtube who are giving you the option to remove ads, we'll put twice the ads on everything! Please invest in my startup, advee (it's like teevee, but with ads!).
burkaman 11y ago
This seems like it would be the worst time to launch a competitor. You'd be saying "check out this new site, it's like YouTube but we brought back the ads". If this new contract is actually an issue, it'll still take a little while for people to understand the downsides, and that's when you want to launch your "creator-friendly YouTube" or whatever.
- peterwwillis 11y ago
  You could wait for the problems to get worse to launch it, or you could offer a working platform now [if you had it] and switch to a totally-free model. As long as you have capital, burn through it to pay for everything until you have enough users. Then, after a year or two, introduce ads, or a subscription fee, or sell product placement or something. I still don't get why product placement isn't used in place of ads. It could bring in tons of money, possibly more than ads, for the most popular youtube channels.
  - burkaman 11y ago
    There's lots of product placement, but YouTube doesn't get any of that money. Companies go straight to the channels when they want to advertise. I don't think YouTube could get away with a contract that gave themselves a cut of this money.
- awalton 11y ago
  Or you can do what https://www.vessel.com/ https://www.vessel.com/ is doing and be subscription first and work out deals with producers for short-term exclusivity. Honestly, I can't understand why anyone would take their content to YouTube exclusively right now given how hostile Google has become.
  - mcintyre1994 11y ago
    How does exclusivity there work? Probably most content on YouTube is only uploaded there by the creators but that doesn't stop Facebook being covered in stuff stolen from there - if vessel got popular wouldn't the same happen?
aikah 11y ago
there is Dailymotion, and a few others but none of them pay their content creators. There was blip.tv but it has shut down.

If there's ever a time to build a youtube competitor or promote your own, now would be it.

by milge 11y ago

If there's ever a time to build a youtube competitor or promote your own, now would be it.

While it can definitely be perceived as bullying, what reason would someone have not to want to support the new mode? They will get revenue from their content, and that revenue doesn't get killed by ad blockers either. Where is the down side?

anon4 11y ago

Yeah, unlike youtube who are giving you the option to remove ads, we'll put twice the ads on everything! Please invest in my startup, advee (it's like teevee, but with ads!).

burkaman 11y ago

This seems like it would be the worst time to launch a competitor. You'd be saying "check out this new site, it's like YouTube but we brought back the ads". If this new contract is actually an issue, it'll still take a little while for people to understand the downsides, and that's when you want to launch your "creator-friendly YouTube" or whatever.

peterwwillis 11y ago
You could wait for the problems to get worse to launch it, or you could offer a working platform now [if you had it] and switch to a totally-free model. As long as you have capital, burn through it to pay for everything until you have enough users. Then, after a year or two, introduce ads, or a subscription fee, or sell product placement or something. I still don't get why product placement isn't used in place of ads. It could bring in tons of money, possibly more than ads, for the most popular youtube channels.
- burkaman 11y ago
  There's lots of product placement, but YouTube doesn't get any of that money. Companies go straight to the channels when they want to advertise. I don't think YouTube could get away with a contract that gave themselves a cut of this money.
awalton 11y ago
Or you can do what https://www.vessel.com/ https://www.vessel.com/ is doing and be subscription first and work out deals with producers for short-term exclusivity. Honestly, I can't understand why anyone would take their content to YouTube exclusively right now given how hostile Google has become.
- mcintyre1994 11y ago
  How does exclusivity there work? Probably most content on YouTube is only uploaded there by the creators but that doesn't stop Facebook being covered in stuff stolen from there - if vessel got popular wouldn't the same happen?

aikah 11y ago

there is Dailymotion, and a few others but none of them pay their content creators. There was blip.tv but it has shut down.