In the first conversation, the person he's talking to is justifiably defensive. Usually when you ask when someone is going to be free without telling them why,

In the first conversation, the person he's talking to is justifiably defensive. Usually when you ask when someone is going to be free without telling them why, it's because you're trying to coerce them into doing something they don't want to do. The question asked was about a 3rd person named Joe, not the person being asked the question.