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Can you provide any actual examples of streets where the paths/lanes have been recently created or updated where its worse than before in the way of any of the
by IkmoIkmo 11y ago
Can you provide any actual examples of streets where the paths/lanes have been recently created or updated where its worse than before in the way of any of the examples you provided? Obviously there are issues, but I'm not familiar with the situation actually worsening anywhere, and some of the problems you mentioned are tradeoffs that mitigate other problems. (for example, yes sometimes pedestrians flow onto the bicycle lane, but I'd rather see risk between cyclists and pedestrians than cyclists and cars, parking separated cycling does create one issue but mitigates a bigger one).
On the whole it feels it's very sensibly done and some issues you mentioned I'm not familiar with at all (like crossings having only lights that apply to cars, unless they're super short crossings in relatively quiet streets where lights make no sense. Cyclists blocking traffic is something that happens less and less, too, little islands have been created for the front row, lines for the back row. On the contrary the new designs have improved this point over the past. Of course it's not perfect but specifically I'm not sure what proposals you have that'd be better).
Anyway specific streets/corners as examples would be helpful!
- phicoh 11y agoTake Raadhuisstraat, etc. from the palace to Mercatorplein and back and you should pass just about all misfeatures except for the roundabout. Another nice example of poor design is the intersection Aletta Jacobslaan / Johan Huizinglaan
- IkmoIkmo 11y agoI don't follow, Raadhuisstraat is known for having no parking separated cycle paths/lanes, which you seem to view as the source of various problem like pedestrians overflowing on the cycle lane (as I understand it). For me the Raadhuisstraat is an example of poor cycling infrastructure because nothing is being done and mix cyclists with motorised vehicles, rather than the badly engineered new lanes that mix cyclists with pedestrians that you talked about. I don't know the rest from memory but I'll try to cycle it sometime soon, I've got a buddy who lives near Mercator. I agree the corner on Aletta and Johan could be better but it's not terrible if you ask me. For Dutch standards you don't get much bigger intersections and it's relatively well done. I guess a roundabout might be better (like Vlaardingenlaan / Overschiestraat, statistics show they do really well. I'm curious what you suggest to do to improve it?