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What proof is there that these people were "losers" and slackers as you put it? Either way, you're right about needing to open it back up. The impact to morale

What proof is there that these people were "losers" and slackers as you put it? Either way, you're right about needing to open it back up. The impact to morale overall must have been huge when these people had to scramble to protect their livelihood.

supercanuck 11y ago
>What proof is there that these people were "losers" and slackers as you put it? Shitty Yahoo products.
- ceejayoz 11y ago
  And your evidence that they were shitty due to the remote workers exclusively is what, exactly?
  - deleted 11y ago
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  - oldmanjay 11y ago
    You're asking for evidence to back up an assertion that was not made.
Paul-ish 11y ago
It appears there were at least some insiders who agreed that there was a lot of dead weight [1]. What I wonder is who's budgets these people were on? Shouldn't it be in some organizational unit's interest to cut people who are not productive, regardless of where they work from? * [1] http://www.businessinsider.com/ex-yahoos-confess-marissa-mayer-is-right-to-ban-working-from-home-2013-2 http://www.businessinsider.com/ex-yahoos-confess-marissa-may...
- mgkimsal 11y ago
  > Shouldn't it be in some organizational unit's interest to cut people who are not productive, regardless of where they work from? Well... if you have, say, 80 people working for you, and you discover 15 are dead weight... cutting them would mean you can do your division's job with 65 people. You wouldn't have any room to argue for budget increase. That's a cynical view, but one I've seen played out a couple of times over the years in my travels.
  - aetherson 11y ago
    Firing people is emotionally taxing. That's honestly probably 85% of the reason why shitty employees can keep their jobs. Managers hate firing people and most will procrastinate endlessly if that option is available.
    - throwawayaway 11y ago
      This is great news, I'm saved!
lmkg 11y ago
> What proof is there that these people were "losers" and slackers as you put it? VPN usage statistics. We have to take Y!'s word for it, but most news stories about the policy change say that Mayer looked at usage statistics to find that many work-from-home employees were working less than full time. I can't find a cite right now, but I thought I read that several employees would go weeks without logging in once.
- dalfonso 11y ago
  http://www.businessinsider.com/how-marissa-mayer-figured-out-work-at-home-yahoos-were-slacking-off-2013-3 http://www.businessinsider.com/how-marissa-mayer-figured-out...

supercanuck 11y ago

>What proof is there that these people were "losers" and slackers as you put it? Shitty Yahoo products.

ceejayoz 11y ago
And your evidence that they were shitty due to the remote workers exclusively is what, exactly?
- deleted 11y ago
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- oldmanjay 11y ago
  You're asking for evidence to back up an assertion that was not made.

Paul-ish 11y ago

It appears there were at least some insiders who agreed that there was a lot of dead weight [1]. What I wonder is who's budgets these people were on? Shouldn't it be in some organizational unit's interest to cut people who are not productive, regardless of where they work from? * [1] http://www.businessinsider.com/ex-yahoos-confess-marissa-mayer-is-right-to-ban-working-from-home-2013-2 http://www.businessinsider.com/ex-yahoos-confess-marissa-may...

mgkimsal 11y ago
> Shouldn't it be in some organizational unit's interest to cut people who are not productive, regardless of where they work from? Well... if you have, say, 80 people working for you, and you discover 15 are dead weight... cutting them would mean you can do your division's job with 65 people. You wouldn't have any room to argue for budget increase. That's a cynical view, but one I've seen played out a couple of times over the years in my travels.
- aetherson 11y ago
  Firing people is emotionally taxing. That's honestly probably 85% of the reason why shitty employees can keep their jobs. Managers hate firing people and most will procrastinate endlessly if that option is available.
  - throwawayaway 11y ago
    This is great news, I'm saved!

lmkg 11y ago

> What proof is there that these people were "losers" and slackers as you put it? VPN usage statistics. We have to take Y!'s word for it, but most news stories about the policy change say that Mayer looked at usage statistics to find that many work-from-home employees were working less than full time. I can't find a cite right now, but I thought I read that several employees would go weeks without logging in once.

dalfonso 11y ago
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-marissa-mayer-figured-out-work-at-home-yahoos-were-slacking-off-2013-3 http://www.businessinsider.com/how-marissa-mayer-figured-out...