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Fingerprint unlock allows 5 fingers on file. Maybe if you attempted an unlock with a different finger (pinky, say), it locked out that method until you'd used y

by prawn 11y ago

Fingerprint unlock allows 5 fingers on file. Maybe if you attempted an unlock with a different finger (pinky, say), it locked out that method until you'd used your passcode instead? Similar to the idea of having a second PIN on your credit card that allows access but indicates acting-under-duress to the bank.

seiji 11y ago
Yeah, there are a lot of clever ways it could be done, but with completely closed platforms we are just at the mercy of our proprietarily coded overlords.
- prawn 11y ago
  Can appreciate that, but I do think Apple are showing genuine signs of caring about users in this area.
- pjmlp 11y ago
  The other ones the code is just there to take it, code review it and use any loopholes.
Forlien 11y ago
When police departments seize electronics, like phones or computers, I thought it was standard for them to clone any hard drives so that they don't lose any data to similar techniques. Is there a reason that they couldn't employ this countermeasure for your suggested security?
- nickff 11y ago
  It is possible to secure devices in ways that even the correct passcode or fingerprint will only work with a specific chipset/decryption module. Some flash storage is also only readable after an unlock code has been transmitted.
sah2ed 11y ago
> Similar to the idea of having a second PIN on your credit card that allows access but indicates acting-under-duress to the bank. Sounds like you are alluding to being able to use a reverse version of your PIN on an ATM when in duress? It's a trope [0]. [0] http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/pinalert.asp http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/pinalert.asp
- peteretep 11y ago
  > It's a trope If it's debuked on Snopes, it's an urban legend or a myth. Trope means something different.
- prawn 11y ago
  Which is why I termed it an "idea".

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Fingerprint unlock allows 5 fingers on file. Maybe if you attempted an unlock with a different finger (pinky, say), it locked out that method until you'd used y

by prawn 11y ago

seiji 11y ago
Yeah, there are a lot of clever ways it could be done, but with completely closed platforms we are just at the mercy of our proprietarily coded overlords.
- prawn 11y ago
  Can appreciate that, but I do think Apple are showing genuine signs of caring about users in this area.
- pjmlp 11y ago
  The other ones the code is just there to take it, code review it and use any loopholes.
Forlien 11y ago
When police departments seize electronics, like phones or computers, I thought it was standard for them to clone any hard drives so that they don't lose any data to similar techniques. Is there a reason that they couldn't employ this countermeasure for your suggested security?
- nickff 11y ago
  It is possible to secure devices in ways that even the correct passcode or fingerprint will only work with a specific chipset/decryption module. Some flash storage is also only readable after an unlock code has been transmitted.
sah2ed 11y ago
> Similar to the idea of having a second PIN on your credit card that allows access but indicates acting-under-duress to the bank. Sounds like you are alluding to being able to use a reverse version of your PIN on an ATM when in duress? It's a trope [0]. [0] http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/pinalert.asp http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/pinalert.asp
- peteretep 11y ago
  > It's a trope If it's debuked on Snopes, it's an urban legend or a myth. Trope means something different.
- prawn 11y ago
  Which is why I termed it an "idea".