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This is unfortunately not true. If you do some research into it, you'll discover that it's not easy for terminally ill patients to end their life. Contrary to w

This is unfortunately not true. If you do some research into it, you'll discover that it's not easy for terminally ill patients to end their life. Contrary to what most people think, sleeping pills are not reliable, nor are many legal drugs. In many cases overdoses of these drugs leaves the person in an even worse state because they can cause severe distress, the body rejects them and vomits them out, they don't act quickly enough before the person is discovered and resuscitated. They can cause brain damage or physical damage without death. Terminally ill patients often aren't in good enough shape to even climb to the top of a building and throw themselves off. Like you said, it is extremely sad. The drugs required for execution, on the other hand, are used because they appear to be the most reliable, peaceful and expedient method. You can read more about it at http://www.peacefulpillhandbook.com/ http://www.peacefulpillhandbook.com/ - there are many terminally ill people who are trying to get their hands on these drugs.

MichaelGG 11y ago
That site doesn't seem to have publicly available info. But wouldn't mizadolam (just to calm you - any benzo I suppose) + a good dose of opiates (say, 1g of diamorphine for a naive user) work well? So long you like opiates (aren't one of those that gets really sick), it wouldn't be anything but amazing. And if you underdose, you just nod in and out for a while and try again (assuming no rescue). If there are rescue teams coming in then I suppose that wouldn't work and you'd just wake up in Narcan hell. What are your choices then?
- refurb 11y ago
  Apparently midazolam isn't a good choice, they tried it in combination with another drug during an execution and it took forever for the guy to die. I'd suggest nitrogen asphyixiation. From what i've read, most folks who accidentally get exposed to 100% nitrogen atmospheres, don't even see it coming. Probably not that great for the execution witnesses as i'm sure you'd thrash about beforr dying.
  - URSpider94 11y ago
    It's being discussed. Oklahoma has legalized it as an alternate execution technique, and is reportedly considering using it if they can't acquire the necessary drugs for lethal injection (earlier this month, the execution of Richard Glossip was called off at the eleventh hour because of a drug screw-up). I'm not actually sure that you would thrash around at all, since there's no suffocation reflex -- according to Wikipedia, you pretty much just lose consciousness and that's that. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas_asphyxiation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas_asphyxiation) For the record, I think we should abolish the death penalty, so I'm not supporting this option, just sharing the data.
  - MichaelGG 11y ago
    Well you don't need the midazolam at all. Enough morphine and you're good to go.
  - KMag 11y ago
    Passing out from breathing pure helium for too long is slightly pleasant and I imagine nitrogen would be similar. Though my friend said my foot was twitching. (I regained consciousness right when he figured out I wasn't joking around and had really passed out.) In my misspent youth, I was once helping a friend with a project involving a couple of weather balloons full of helium. When he was done and we were cleaning up, I was playing around with breathing pure helium. One breath of pure helium was fine, and I followed it up with a second breath of pure helium, figuring I would feel hypoxia start to set in. It sets in fast and is actually euphoric. I remember saying "whoah" and realizing I was about to pass out, and I remember hearing my head hit the rubber floor I was sitting on. (I did sit down, since I realized there was a danger of my passing out.) EDIT: I should point out that I used to be in favor of the death penalty, but now feel that it is usually little more than state-sponsored vengeance. I would like to see a cultural shift in America away from all forms of vengeance , and legitimizing vengeance against murders is worse than helping the families of murder victims realize that vengeance is neither necessary nor sufficient for closure. If we as a society are determined to kill murderers, my experience suggests that breathing pure nitrogen would be one of the least barbaric ways to do so.
- jakejake 11y ago
  The private area of the site does go into just about every option you could imagine - various drug combinations, creating hoods for inhaling gas, jumping off a bridge, etc. It pretty much comes down to the amount of risk the person wants to take that their attempt is a) successful b) quick and c) painless. Most people are afraid that they'll end up in a coma or severely brain damaged. Or if it is successful, people don't want their final moments to be gory with their head in a bag, vomiting profusely, thrashing around, etc.
yo-code-sucks 11y ago
Why not just use a good ole pillow? That's what I'd want if I were in the position, just keep it simple.

MichaelGG 11y ago

That site doesn't seem to have publicly available info. But wouldn't mizadolam (just to calm you - any benzo I suppose) + a good dose of opiates (say, 1g of diamorphine for a naive user) work well? So long you like opiates (aren't one of those that gets really sick), it wouldn't be anything but amazing. And if you underdose, you just nod in and out for a while and try again (assuming no rescue). If there are rescue teams coming in then I suppose that wouldn't work and you'd just wake up in Narcan hell. What are your choices then?

refurb 11y ago
Apparently midazolam isn't a good choice, they tried it in combination with another drug during an execution and it took forever for the guy to die. I'd suggest nitrogen asphyixiation. From what i've read, most folks who accidentally get exposed to 100% nitrogen atmospheres, don't even see it coming. Probably not that great for the execution witnesses as i'm sure you'd thrash about beforr dying.
- URSpider94 11y ago
  It's being discussed. Oklahoma has legalized it as an alternate execution technique, and is reportedly considering using it if they can't acquire the necessary drugs for lethal injection (earlier this month, the execution of Richard Glossip was called off at the eleventh hour because of a drug screw-up). I'm not actually sure that you would thrash around at all, since there's no suffocation reflex -- according to Wikipedia, you pretty much just lose consciousness and that's that. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas_asphyxiation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas_asphyxiation) For the record, I think we should abolish the death penalty, so I'm not supporting this option, just sharing the data.
- MichaelGG 11y ago
  Well you don't need the midazolam at all. Enough morphine and you're good to go.
- KMag 11y ago
  Passing out from breathing pure helium for too long is slightly pleasant and I imagine nitrogen would be similar. Though my friend said my foot was twitching. (I regained consciousness right when he figured out I wasn't joking around and had really passed out.) In my misspent youth, I was once helping a friend with a project involving a couple of weather balloons full of helium. When he was done and we were cleaning up, I was playing around with breathing pure helium. One breath of pure helium was fine, and I followed it up with a second breath of pure helium, figuring I would feel hypoxia start to set in. It sets in fast and is actually euphoric. I remember saying "whoah" and realizing I was about to pass out, and I remember hearing my head hit the rubber floor I was sitting on. (I did sit down, since I realized there was a danger of my passing out.) EDIT: I should point out that I used to be in favor of the death penalty, but now feel that it is usually little more than state-sponsored vengeance. I would like to see a cultural shift in America away from all forms of vengeance , and legitimizing vengeance against murders is worse than helping the families of murder victims realize that vengeance is neither necessary nor sufficient for closure. If we as a society are determined to kill murderers, my experience suggests that breathing pure nitrogen would be one of the least barbaric ways to do so.
jakejake 11y ago
The private area of the site does go into just about every option you could imagine - various drug combinations, creating hoods for inhaling gas, jumping off a bridge, etc. It pretty much comes down to the amount of risk the person wants to take that their attempt is a) successful b) quick and c) painless. Most people are afraid that they'll end up in a coma or severely brain damaged. Or if it is successful, people don't want their final moments to be gory with their head in a bag, vomiting profusely, thrashing around, etc.

yo-code-sucks 11y ago

Why not just use a good ole pillow? That's what I'd want if I were in the position, just keep it simple.