> The article showed Ember 1.9 coming in dead last because of code size. 2.0 is supposed to be a little better but do you really think it's going to be ahead of

> The article showed Ember 1.9 coming in dead last because of code size. 2.0 is supposed to be a little better but do you really think it's going to be ahead of the curve? It seems pretty unlikely... I hope you'll say more. To be fair to Ember here - Ember includes Ember itself, Ember Data and jQuery in that payload. React is just React - you'll probably want to include Redux (2KB) or Alt (33KB) and then potentially a whatwg-fetch polyfill or superagent, normalize and other libs to (possibly) fill out some jQuery features (Zepto @ 9.1KB), if not jQuery itself.