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That's PER SCAN. Do you think the Police roll up, do a scan, and then take off? No. They're sitting there scanning constantly (most likely), so to use your anal

by rnovak 11y ago

That's PER SCAN. Do you think the Police roll up, do a scan, and then take off? No. They're sitting there scanning constantly (most likely), so to use your analogy, that's a lot of banana eating.

AnimalMuppet 11y ago
Even more banana eating for the cops running the thing...
- rnovak 11y ago
  Did you even read the article? can be operated remotely from more than 1,500 feet Yeah, totally dangerous for the cop </sarcasm>
  - AnimalMuppet 11y ago
    Can be, yes. How often will it be? How often will it be operated remotely, and there's no other police in the immediate vicinity doing traffic control or some such? [Edit: the article also talks about scanning the inside of a house in 15 seconds. That's not going to happen if they drive up the van, park it, get out, walk 1500 feet away, scan the house, walk back... (Yes, I know, they can drive away and back in another vehicle. It's still not likely to be operated remotely in that usage - all the activity makes it too conspicuous.)]
    - coldtea 11y ago
      >Can be, yes. How often will it be? The answer can even be ALWAYS, if remote controlling it is mandated by protocol. >How often will it be operated remotely, and there's no other police in the immediate vicinity doing traffic control or some such? That doesn't come into play at all. Do you think those kind of surveillance happens in busy streets with traffic control cops dancing around?
      - AnimalMuppet 11y ago
        Top-level comment by sandworm101: > They are not hard to spot. Watch the media entrances of events, where the on-location vans drive through. Look for where traffic is routed through a single lane. Inevitably they will route traffic past an unmarked van. Or, look for an unmarked van trolling any parking lots within any security cordon. That "look for where traffic is routed through a single lane" makes me strongly suspect there's going to be traffic officers in the very near vicinity.
        coldtea 11y ago
        >That "look for where traffic is routed through a single lane" makes me strongly suspect there's going to be traffic officers in the very near vicinity. In that case those "traffic officers" will be further down directing traffic to the van, not in the van's target.
- pohl 11y ago
  ...assuming there's no shielding between the equipment and the cabin, right? Turns out there is shielding: "Law enforcement officers operate the system in conditions of complete safety from inside shielded cabins." (Source: http://www.nethun.it/index_en.php?sez=security_en&sec=rm http://www.nethun.it/index_en.php?sez=security_en&sec=rm ) Don't miss this delicious advertisement video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iABPKd0vFxQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iABPKd0vFxQ
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jsprogrammer 11y ago
Yep, let's see the actual discharge history of the vans.
jostmey 11y ago
And are we assuming that the person is inside a metal vehicle? What if someone is outdoors? How much radiation does this scanner actually emit? The numbers are meaninglessness without more information. Why doesn't the manufacturer just publish the hard numbers?

by rnovak 11y ago

That's PER SCAN. Do you think the Police roll up, do a scan, and then take off? No. They're sitting there scanning constantly (most likely), so to use your analogy, that's a lot of banana eating.

AnimalMuppet 11y ago

Even more banana eating for the cops running the thing...

rnovak 11y ago
Did you even read the article? can be operated remotely from more than 1,500 feet Yeah, totally dangerous for the cop </sarcasm>
- AnimalMuppet 11y ago
  Can be, yes. How often will it be? How often will it be operated remotely, and there's no other police in the immediate vicinity doing traffic control or some such? [Edit: the article also talks about scanning the inside of a house in 15 seconds. That's not going to happen if they drive up the van, park it, get out, walk 1500 feet away, scan the house, walk back... (Yes, I know, they can drive away and back in another vehicle. It's still not likely to be operated remotely in that usage - all the activity makes it too conspicuous.)]
  - coldtea 11y ago
    >Can be, yes. How often will it be? The answer can even be ALWAYS, if remote controlling it is mandated by protocol. >How often will it be operated remotely, and there's no other police in the immediate vicinity doing traffic control or some such? That doesn't come into play at all. Do you think those kind of surveillance happens in busy streets with traffic control cops dancing around?
    - AnimalMuppet 11y ago
      Top-level comment by sandworm101: > They are not hard to spot. Watch the media entrances of events, where the on-location vans drive through. Look for where traffic is routed through a single lane. Inevitably they will route traffic past an unmarked van. Or, look for an unmarked van trolling any parking lots within any security cordon. That "look for where traffic is routed through a single lane" makes me strongly suspect there's going to be traffic officers in the very near vicinity.
      - coldtea 11y ago
        >That "look for where traffic is routed through a single lane" makes me strongly suspect there's going to be traffic officers in the very near vicinity. In that case those "traffic officers" will be further down directing traffic to the van, not in the van's target.
pohl 11y ago
...assuming there's no shielding between the equipment and the cabin, right? Turns out there is shielding: "Law enforcement officers operate the system in conditions of complete safety from inside shielded cabins." (Source: http://www.nethun.it/index_en.php?sez=security_en&sec=rm http://www.nethun.it/index_en.php?sez=security_en&sec=rm ) Don't miss this delicious advertisement video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iABPKd0vFxQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iABPKd0vFxQ

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jsprogrammer 11y ago

Yep, let's see the actual discharge history of the vans.

jostmey 11y ago

And are we assuming that the person is inside a metal vehicle? What if someone is outdoors? How much radiation does this scanner actually emit? The numbers are meaninglessness without more information. Why doesn't the manufacturer just publish the hard numbers?