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Why is this legal? In Kyllo -vs- United States, the USSC ruled that using modern technology to peer into someone's home constituted a search under the 4th Amend

Why is this legal? In Kyllo -vs- United States, the USSC ruled that using modern technology to peer into someone's home constituted a search under the 4th Amendment[1], and required a warrant. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States

dsugarman 11y ago
Why is it legal to collect every passing motorist's speed using a radar gun? Why is a red light camera legal? I assume they aren't. They are both very unconstitutional, just gathering massive amounts of evidence with no warrant or probable cause. Why any of these practices have lasted longer than a year after deployment is beyond me.
- mmanfrin 11y ago
  Why is it legal to collect every passing motorist's speed using a radar gun? Why is a red light camera legal? I assume they aren't Both those examples happen when the subject of question is on public property and whose investigated crimes are those of the actual vehicle being misused.
- lojack 11y ago
  Reasonable expectation of privacy. Private residence falls under this, public streets don't.
beeboop 11y ago
It's probably not, but considering Chicago ran a blacksite operation that moved over 7000 people and relatively little has happened in regards to that, you can bet nothing will happen with this.
- malnourish 11y ago
  More info?
  - jrlocke 11y ago
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-homan-square-lawsuit-20151020-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-homan-square-lawsuit-2...
  - beeboop 11y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Police_Department#Homan_Square https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Police_Department#Homa...
    - methehack 11y ago
      holy crap thx for mentioning
- themartorana 11y ago
  It's crazy what we do find out, probably crazier what we don't know, and craziest how sunshine is no longer necessarily a disinfectant.
seiji 11y ago
The goal of modern law enforcement in the US is to just grow bigger and bigger and get more and more toys. Start program. Don't tell anybody about it. In fact, make it illegal for people to know about it. Buy millions of dollars in equipment. Use equipment even if untested/ineffective. Buy more equipment and start more programs. Repeat. Gotta stop terrorism, after all.
- jonlucc 11y ago
  Also, if someone starts to challenge your data source, be sure to settle or drop the case. We wouldn't want a legal challenge to have a chance of succeeding and stopping the unconstitutional practices.
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dsugarman 11y ago

Why is it legal to collect every passing motorist's speed using a radar gun? Why is a red light camera legal? I assume they aren't. They are both very unconstitutional, just gathering massive amounts of evidence with no warrant or probable cause. Why any of these practices have lasted longer than a year after deployment is beyond me.

mmanfrin 11y ago
Why is it legal to collect every passing motorist's speed using a radar gun? Why is a red light camera legal? I assume they aren't Both those examples happen when the subject of question is on public property and whose investigated crimes are those of the actual vehicle being misused.
lojack 11y ago
Reasonable expectation of privacy. Private residence falls under this, public streets don't.

beeboop 11y ago

It's probably not, but considering Chicago ran a blacksite operation that moved over 7000 people and relatively little has happened in regards to that, you can bet nothing will happen with this.

malnourish 11y ago
More info?
- jrlocke 11y ago
  http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-homan-square-lawsuit-20151020-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-homan-square-lawsuit-2...
- beeboop 11y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Police_Department#Homan_Square https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Police_Department#Homa...
  - methehack 11y ago
    holy crap thx for mentioning
themartorana 11y ago
It's crazy what we do find out, probably crazier what we don't know, and craziest how sunshine is no longer necessarily a disinfectant.

seiji 11y ago

The goal of modern law enforcement in the US is to just grow bigger and bigger and get more and more toys. Start program. Don't tell anybody about it. In fact, make it illegal for people to know about it. Buy millions of dollars in equipment. Use equipment even if untested/ineffective. Buy more equipment and start more programs. Repeat. Gotta stop terrorism, after all.

jonlucc 11y ago
Also, if someone starts to challenge your data source, be sure to settle or drop the case. We wouldn't want a legal challenge to have a chance of succeeding and stopping the unconstitutional practices.

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