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Considering most entry-level positions in big tech pay well but come with outrageous hours and no overtime, an accusation of low pay seems justified. I know ple

Considering most entry-level positions in big tech pay well but come with outrageous hours and no overtime, an accusation of low pay seems justified. I know plenty of Google engineers who recently started in the Bay Area at around $86,000. Considering the amount of time they're expected to work and the costs of living there, that's pretty pathetic for a huge company with deep pockets.

lbotos 11y ago
>Entry level Position. Median salary for SF Region in 2014 was $75,900. Thats ~10k over the median for an ENTRY level position. Sure, could Google pay them more, absolutely. But I don't think 86k a year is anything to scoff at.
- nilkn 11y ago
  Why should you expect a very technically demanding position that requires passing strenuous filters and interviews to not pay much beyond the median in the entire area across all jobs? Should doctors who've just completed their residency start at $75-85k too just because they're technically entry-level?
nilkn 11y ago
$86k at Google in 2015? That's the lowest starting salary there I've heard in 5+ years. I'm not saying you're wrong, just saying that not even the cachet of Google could get me to accept that salary in the Bay Area when I could get the same salary in Texas and live twice as nice of a life.
gogthr 11y ago
I don't believe there are full time engineers at Google making less than 6 figures. Right out of college at Google I'm making 105 base and way more with stocks/bonuses.
- jnbiche 11y ago
  Wait, so you're making only ~5% more than the threshold you don't believe exists? You don't think that among the many thousands of people working at Google, perhaps someone has 10% worse negotiating ability than you, or someone's background and experience impressed their interviewers 10% less? Or work in an area of the country with 10% less cost of living?
  - jacquesm 11y ago
    You missed this bit: > and way more with stocks/bonuses. The base pay is one thing, the total is quite another. Don't be surprised if the total comes to 200K +.

lbotos 11y ago

>Entry level Position. Median salary for SF Region in 2014 was $75,900. Thats ~10k over the median for an ENTRY level position. Sure, could Google pay them more, absolutely. But I don't think 86k a year is anything to scoff at.

nilkn 11y ago
Why should you expect a very technically demanding position that requires passing strenuous filters and interviews to not pay much beyond the median in the entire area across all jobs? Should doctors who've just completed their residency start at $75-85k too just because they're technically entry-level?

nilkn 11y ago

$86k at Google in 2015? That's the lowest starting salary there I've heard in 5+ years. I'm not saying you're wrong, just saying that not even the cachet of Google could get me to accept that salary in the Bay Area when I could get the same salary in Texas and live twice as nice of a life.

gogthr 11y ago

I don't believe there are full time engineers at Google making less than 6 figures. Right out of college at Google I'm making 105 base and way more with stocks/bonuses.

jnbiche 11y ago
Wait, so you're making only ~5% more than the threshold you don't believe exists? You don't think that among the many thousands of people working at Google, perhaps someone has 10% worse negotiating ability than you, or someone's background and experience impressed their interviewers 10% less? Or work in an area of the country with 10% less cost of living?
- jacquesm 11y ago
  You missed this bit: > and way more with stocks/bonuses. The base pay is one thing, the total is quite another. Don't be surprised if the total comes to 200K +.