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I have a 4 year old phone. Without all of the kernel optimizations, forced removal of Google App and Google Play Services, I wouldn't be able to do anything. My

I have a 4 year old phone. Without all of the kernel optimizations, forced removal of Google App and Google Play Services, I wouldn't be able to do anything. My battery lasts 4 days of normal use. Before my changes it couldn't last 10 hours. So much amateurish bloat. I'm baffled by those engineers.

Elessar 11y ago
Don't be baffled. Engineering is driven by business direction, and the creation of an upgrade cycle is beneficial for the entire Android ecosystem. You are not the customer they want.
- legulere 11y ago
  This has nothing to do with an upgrade cycle. Optimisation costs engineering time which is quite pricy. So it's an easy way to cut costs.
- skimpycompiler 11y ago
  > You are not the customer they want. That's true. Then I'd say I just don't like the engineering they are doing.
72deluxe 11y ago
How did you force remove the Google apps and Google Play Services? Did this require root? I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition that I bought in February, and it lasts nowhere as long as my wife's 2012 iPad3. Such a disappointment. I will sell it, last Android device I buy.
- skimpycompiler 11y ago
  Of course, root, without it I couldn't do a thing. I have Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 but older edition, battery is still fine, the OS got slow, even on factory reset, so, I decided to root it and runs much faster - pen use was not that great before, now it's perfect. Note that the act of rooting didn't have anything to do with the speed up, after installing a custom OS with GPU optimizations for drawing graphical elements it worked great.
- ionised 11y ago
  CyanogenMod is basically a stock Android without any of the Google apps, services or frameworks. You can always install a very minimal version of the GApps later if you really need them. Look for a Nano or Pico version. I can't remember which is the smaller of the two, but it basically just comes with Play Store and the Framework to make it work.
soylentcola 11y ago
At the same time, isn't it nice that you can do these things? Every so often I look for similar projects or hacks to revitalize my old iPad2 but they don't seem to exist. At that point I don't care about warranties or the silly insistence that I can't be trusted to grant superuser privileges on a device I own. But even jailbroken, I've yet to find a way to reliably "slim down" the iPad's set of running processes so it's painful to use even as just a web browsing device.

Elessar 11y ago

Don't be baffled. Engineering is driven by business direction, and the creation of an upgrade cycle is beneficial for the entire Android ecosystem. You are not the customer they want.

legulere 11y ago
This has nothing to do with an upgrade cycle. Optimisation costs engineering time which is quite pricy. So it's an easy way to cut costs.
skimpycompiler 11y ago
> You are not the customer they want. That's true. Then I'd say I just don't like the engineering they are doing.

72deluxe 11y ago

How did you force remove the Google apps and Google Play Services? Did this require root? I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition that I bought in February, and it lasts nowhere as long as my wife's 2012 iPad3. Such a disappointment. I will sell it, last Android device I buy.

skimpycompiler 11y ago
Of course, root, without it I couldn't do a thing. I have Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 but older edition, battery is still fine, the OS got slow, even on factory reset, so, I decided to root it and runs much faster - pen use was not that great before, now it's perfect. Note that the act of rooting didn't have anything to do with the speed up, after installing a custom OS with GPU optimizations for drawing graphical elements it worked great.
ionised 11y ago
CyanogenMod is basically a stock Android without any of the Google apps, services or frameworks. You can always install a very minimal version of the GApps later if you really need them. Look for a Nano or Pico version. I can't remember which is the smaller of the two, but it basically just comes with Play Store and the Framework to make it work.

soylentcola 11y ago

At the same time, isn't it nice that you can do these things? Every so often I look for similar projects or hacks to revitalize my old iPad2 but they don't seem to exist. At that point I don't care about warranties or the silly insistence that I can't be trusted to grant superuser privileges on a device I own. But even jailbroken, I've yet to find a way to reliably "slim down" the iPad's set of running processes so it's painful to use even as just a web browsing device.