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Where exactly do you live? I've driven all over the east coast and have never, ever seen any of this to be remotely true.
by herbig 11y ago
Where exactly do you live? I've driven all over the east coast and have never, ever seen any of this to be remotely true.
- Nadya 11y agoMy guess is west coast. (1) is even lovely titled "California Pit Stop". Because people from California don't know to stop on the white line (or have a terrible perception of where the front of their vehicle is) many people stop in the pedestrian crossing. They proceed to roll through the 4-way stop so long as they don't see anyone. Although 20mph is cutting it, perhaps 10-15? Either way they never come to a full and complete stop. (2) is because seemingly nobody knows 4-way stops are FIFO and believe it's "Straights first then turns". If paths are non-conflicting, both people will go at the same time. (4) is only partially true. If you're in a rush, left-signalling is not necessary; it's user discretion. Also all straight/right turn lanes are assumed to be straight, since nobody signals right turns. This is a reminder that it is your fault for not turning right due to potential oncoming traffic and the car behind you will occasionally honk in irritation that you didn't pull out in front of traffic that was potentially continuing straight. Driving in the L.A area is hell.
- kazinator 11y agoNote that going at the same time for nonconflicting paths is logical: at least if everyone reliably indicates lefts! Intersection controls exist for resolving the conflict over a resource: a piece of road needed by multiple vehicles which they can't all occupy at the same time. If there is no conflict, the control serves no purpose to that case, other than "traffic calming".
- Nadya 11y agoEven when the user signals - there is no guarantee they will be actually be turning. Some users think it is in good form to signal an upcoming lane merge while stopped at an intersection. I guess the point we're both trying to get across is that people on the west coast, as a whole, don't seem to understand how to drive. :) It was motivation enough for me to buy a dashcam.
- kazinator 11y agoWest coast Canada. (See mikestew's sibling comment to yours).
- timmyelliot 11y agoI live in Los Angeles, particularly Beverly Hills / Century City, and am surprised when I see people acting civil at 4-way stops.