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> I'm wondering if there are any recommendations for "Heroku-like" providers with a free tier that stays up 24/7 for super simple Rails and Sinatra apps, perhap

> I'm wondering if there are any recommendations for "Heroku-like" providers with a free tier that stays up 24/7 for super simple Rails and Sinatra apps, perhaps with a DB. OpenShift(https://www.openshift.com/ https://www.openshift.com/) may be the service you're looking for. I haven't tried it, but it looks nice.

ghaff 11y ago
Out of the box OpenShift has a variety of languages and frameworks as well as ProstgreSQL, MySQL, and MongoDB database options (plus custom cartridges). You get three free gears (i.e. containers) so up to 3 small apps. I've only used it to create a small Python/Flask app http://wwos-bitmason.rhcloud.com/ http://wwos-bitmason.rhcloud.com/ but there are lots of examples and information on the OpenShift blog. [Disclaimer: I work for Red Hat.]
carise 11y ago
I've used OpenShift and it's pretty straightforward to use. I don't feel like it's as easy to use as Heroku, but it got the job done. If I left my app idle (I think for 24 hrs or more), I noticed that it took awhile for it to awake when I tried to access it again.
- shostack 11y ago
  So is it not in fact up for 24hrs if it has to wake up when you try to access it again?
  - iza 11y ago
    According to https://www.openshift.com/products/pricing/plan-comparison https://www.openshift.com/products/pricing/plan-comparison the free plan idles after 24 hours of inactivity (https://developers.openshift.com/en/managing-idling.html https://developers.openshift.com/en/managing-idling.html) However you can work around it by hitting your server with an http request every 24 hours, or upgrade to the Bronze Plan which apparently has $0 base price anyway so I'm not sure what the downside is.
    - area51org 11y ago
      Openshift user here: there is no downside. Bronze truly is $0/mo. It's just that you have to given them a CC number (while you do not need to do that for the "free" plan). Why the CC number? Bronze lets you pay for more features if you want them—but there's no obligation.
      - BlackMonday 11y ago
        Do you know how powerfull the free gears are that one gets with each price plan? I have a fantasy basketball league that a few of my coworkers and I play and a free service would be ideal for that. Can the free gear (as a scaled app) manage a postgres database with around 600 MB, or would that be too much?
      - shostack 11y ago
        Are there any ways to be hit by surprise charges on Bronze? I'm assuming setting up a ping via the New Relic trick people used on Heroku is sufficient. Also, for a relative novice, how easy is it to get a Rails or Sinatra app up and running? My concern longer-term is that Openshift would go the same route as Heroku. Is there anything about their business model that might indicate that's not a major risk?
baggachipz 11y ago
I use OpenShift and I think it's fantastic. You can even install your own SSL cert on the free tier (if you register their "Bronze" level, IIRC) for no additional charge. It's perfect for a hobbyist project and then scaling it up if necessary.
jacques_chester 11y ago
Cloud Foundry. You can try it through Pivotal Web Services or BlueMix. It reuses Heroku's code for several buildpacks, particularly Ruby. I know that it works really well because (disclaimer!) I worked on the Cloud Foundry Buildpacks team for Pivotal.
- arikrak 11y ago
  How easy is it to migrate your database, app, addons and configuration from Heroku to Bluemix? I'm going to consider a new host once Heroku ends it's grandfathered prices on Feb 1, 2016.
  - jacques_chester 11y ago
    I'd recommend Pivotal Web Services[0], aka PWS, aka "p-dubs", buuuut that's only because I work for the company running it :) If you have a 12-factor app that pulls config from the environment, it should ideally not be too traumatic. Services are meant to be injected by the platform. Apps should be the easiest part. Of the buildpacks: Ruby, Python and Node are based on Heroku's and are very nearly identical. Go is based on a community buildpack, PHP is a complete ground-up rewrite and Java is a ground-up rewrite maintained by the Spring team. If you signup for PWS and you find things broken or missing, email me: jchester@pivotal.io, and I will find who can help you. [0] http://run.pivotal.io/ http://run.pivotal.io/
jestar_jokin 11y ago
Note that, for some reason, they limit regions that can use their paid tiers. So, you can't use them if you're in third world countries like Australia or New Zealand.

ghaff 11y ago

Out of the box OpenShift has a variety of languages and frameworks as well as ProstgreSQL, MySQL, and MongoDB database options (plus custom cartridges). You get three free gears (i.e. containers) so up to 3 small apps. I've only used it to create a small Python/Flask app http://wwos-bitmason.rhcloud.com/ http://wwos-bitmason.rhcloud.com/ but there are lots of examples and information on the OpenShift blog. [Disclaimer: I work for Red Hat.]

carise 11y ago

I've used OpenShift and it's pretty straightforward to use. I don't feel like it's as easy to use as Heroku, but it got the job done. If I left my app idle (I think for 24 hrs or more), I noticed that it took awhile for it to awake when I tried to access it again.

shostack 11y ago
So is it not in fact up for 24hrs if it has to wake up when you try to access it again?
- iza 11y ago
  According to https://www.openshift.com/products/pricing/plan-comparison https://www.openshift.com/products/pricing/plan-comparison the free plan idles after 24 hours of inactivity (https://developers.openshift.com/en/managing-idling.html https://developers.openshift.com/en/managing-idling.html) However you can work around it by hitting your server with an http request every 24 hours, or upgrade to the Bronze Plan which apparently has $0 base price anyway so I'm not sure what the downside is.
  - area51org 11y ago
    Openshift user here: there is no downside. Bronze truly is $0/mo. It's just that you have to given them a CC number (while you do not need to do that for the "free" plan). Why the CC number? Bronze lets you pay for more features if you want them—but there's no obligation.
    - BlackMonday 11y ago
      Do you know how powerfull the free gears are that one gets with each price plan? I have a fantasy basketball league that a few of my coworkers and I play and a free service would be ideal for that. Can the free gear (as a scaled app) manage a postgres database with around 600 MB, or would that be too much?
    - shostack 11y ago
      Are there any ways to be hit by surprise charges on Bronze? I'm assuming setting up a ping via the New Relic trick people used on Heroku is sufficient. Also, for a relative novice, how easy is it to get a Rails or Sinatra app up and running? My concern longer-term is that Openshift would go the same route as Heroku. Is there anything about their business model that might indicate that's not a major risk?

baggachipz 11y ago

I use OpenShift and I think it's fantastic. You can even install your own SSL cert on the free tier (if you register their "Bronze" level, IIRC) for no additional charge. It's perfect for a hobbyist project and then scaling it up if necessary.

jacques_chester 11y ago

Cloud Foundry. You can try it through Pivotal Web Services or BlueMix. It reuses Heroku's code for several buildpacks, particularly Ruby. I know that it works really well because (disclaimer!) I worked on the Cloud Foundry Buildpacks team for Pivotal.

arikrak 11y ago
How easy is it to migrate your database, app, addons and configuration from Heroku to Bluemix? I'm going to consider a new host once Heroku ends it's grandfathered prices on Feb 1, 2016.
- jacques_chester 11y ago
  I'd recommend Pivotal Web Services[0], aka PWS, aka "p-dubs", buuuut that's only because I work for the company running it :) If you have a 12-factor app that pulls config from the environment, it should ideally not be too traumatic. Services are meant to be injected by the platform. Apps should be the easiest part. Of the buildpacks: Ruby, Python and Node are based on Heroku's and are very nearly identical. Go is based on a community buildpack, PHP is a complete ground-up rewrite and Java is a ground-up rewrite maintained by the Spring team. If you signup for PWS and you find things broken or missing, email me: jchester@pivotal.io, and I will find who can help you. [0] http://run.pivotal.io/ http://run.pivotal.io/

jestar_jokin 11y ago

Note that, for some reason, they limit regions that can use their paid tiers. So, you can't use them if you're in third world countries like Australia or New Zealand.