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Male birth control is not happening, it is not just economy but also politics. There are a few methods known since sixties, with less side effects than female h

by jkot 11y ago

Male birth control is not happening, it is not just economy but also politics. There are a few methods known since sixties, with less side effects than female hormonal contraception, but those are all banned.

toomuchtodo 11y ago
It looks very much like it is happening. I have to travel to another country to get a procedure done? Oh well. Medical tourism has been a thing for a while.
- Raphmedia 11y ago
  Male non-invasive birth control isn't happening right now. It wouldn't be viable to travel to other countries to get birth control pills monthly.
  - toomuchtodo 11y ago
    > Male non-invasive birth control isn't happening right now. Research continues, no? Its going to be available sometime soon (3-5 years), even if I have to get pills mailed from India or China every month (or I go on a medical tourism trip to have the Vasalgel procedure done). If I'm worried about the reversibility, I'd have some semen cryogenically preserved. I'm also not too worried with how quickly protocols are being developed to coax stem cells to grow into reproductive tissue.
    - caio1982 11y ago
      I've been hearing that it will be available "sometime soon" for the last 20 years.
BeefySwain 11y ago
>There are a few methods known since sixties, with less side effects than female hormonal contraception Such as?
- jkot 11y ago
  http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/722423_5 http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/722423_5 google cache: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:50H_2S_02_sJ:www.medscape.com/viewarticle/722423_5+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=gr https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:50H_2S...
  - LesZedCB 11y ago
    Do you have a link that's not behind a paywall? Can you describe the abstract?
  - scythe 11y ago
    >This study revealed that 70% of 271 patients became azoospermic after 6 months of treatment. The mean time to azoospermia was 3 months. The azoospermic patients were enrolled in a 12-month efficacy phase, where one pregnancy occurred. Sperm reappeared in the ejaculate in 11 patients. Once the testosterone was discontinued, the mean time to sperm recovery was 3.7 months. Of note, this international study revealed that 91% of Asian and 60% of Caucasian patients became azoospermic, suggesting an ethnic difference in endocrine response. This difference has been seen in subsequent studies. Possible explanations include fivefold differences α-reductase levels in these groups, This is your solution? This isn't marketable because you can't have six-month induction periods with repeated testing for azoospermia that only works on 3/4 of patients in the first place. That's a practical problem, not a political one.

by jkot 11y ago

toomuchtodo 11y ago

It looks very much like it is happening. I have to travel to another country to get a procedure done? Oh well. Medical tourism has been a thing for a while.

Raphmedia 11y ago
Male non-invasive birth control isn't happening right now. It wouldn't be viable to travel to other countries to get birth control pills monthly.
- toomuchtodo 11y ago
  > Male non-invasive birth control isn't happening right now. Research continues, no? Its going to be available sometime soon (3-5 years), even if I have to get pills mailed from India or China every month (or I go on a medical tourism trip to have the Vasalgel procedure done). If I'm worried about the reversibility, I'd have some semen cryogenically preserved. I'm also not too worried with how quickly protocols are being developed to coax stem cells to grow into reproductive tissue.
  - caio1982 11y ago
    I've been hearing that it will be available "sometime soon" for the last 20 years.

BeefySwain 11y ago

>There are a few methods known since sixties, with less side effects than female hormonal contraception Such as?

jkot 11y ago
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/722423_5 http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/722423_5 google cache: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:50H_2S_02_sJ:www.medscape.com/viewarticle/722423_5+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=gr https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:50H_2S...
- LesZedCB 11y ago
  Do you have a link that's not behind a paywall? Can you describe the abstract?
- scythe 11y ago
  >This study revealed that 70% of 271 patients became azoospermic after 6 months of treatment. The mean time to azoospermia was 3 months. The azoospermic patients were enrolled in a 12-month efficacy phase, where one pregnancy occurred. Sperm reappeared in the ejaculate in 11 patients. Once the testosterone was discontinued, the mean time to sperm recovery was 3.7 months. Of note, this international study revealed that 91% of Asian and 60% of Caucasian patients became azoospermic, suggesting an ethnic difference in endocrine response. This difference has been seen in subsequent studies. Possible explanations include fivefold differences α-reductase levels in these groups, This is your solution? This isn't marketable because you can't have six-month induction periods with repeated testing for azoospermia that only works on 3/4 of patients in the first place. That's a practical problem, not a political one.