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Did you see Hillary a couple of days ago saying it would be worth it to look into a mandatory gun-buyback program like they did in Australia? Gun control has a

Did you see Hillary a couple of days ago saying it would be worth it to look into a mandatory gun-buyback program like they did in Australia? Gun control has always been the appetizer for gun confiscation. EDIT: for those who think I'm misinterpreting: Clinton made the comments during a campaign stop in Keene, N.H., when an attendee asked about Australia’s 1996 and 2003 buy-back programs that collected roughly 700,000 banned semi-automatic rifles and other firearms. "I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level, if that could be arranged," Clinton responded. dublinben, please show me how I'm misinterpreting what she said rather than just accusing me of doing so.

dublinben 11y ago
You're grossly misrepresenting what she actually said.
- forrestthewoods 11y ago
  http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/16/politics/nra-hillary-clinton-guns-democrats/ http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/16/politics/nra-hillary-clinton-g... ""I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level if that could be arranged," she said in response to a question about Australia's nationwide buyback initiative that began in 1996." I, uh, would have to say that checks out?
  - hga 11y ago
    As Wikipedia puts it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_buyback_program#Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_buyback_program#Australia): Unlike the voluntary buybacks in the United States, Australian buybacks of 1996 and 2003 were compulsory, compensated surrenders of particular types of firearms made illegal by new gun laws. The financial compensation was paltry; that for being converted from a citizen to a subject...?
    - semi-extrinsic 11y ago
      Your comment leads me to believe you're taking issue with the fact that weapons are made illegal, not with the actual buyback? If you agree that weapon category X (for argument's sake, let's say grenade launchers) should be made illegal, what reason would you have for opposing mandatory buyback of these now-illegal weapons? (The financial compensation in question was on average ~$550 per gun.)
      - hga 11y ago
        Yes, of course. If no coercion is involved and someone is stupid enough to exchange a valuable item for a pittance, who am I to stand in their way? One reason for the general failure of gun buybacks in the US is two responses from the gun savvy: 1) Go back a bit from the front of the line, and if you see a valuable weapon held by a noob (vs. a likely crime weapon), buy it on the spot for a lot more than what's being offered. 2) Gather up clunker weapons with values much less than the $100 or whatever they're offering and make out like a bandit.
        forrestthewoods 11y ago
        Lots of good deal to be had at gun buy backs! Like you said. Either selling junkers for good cash or buying good guns at a good price. It's win/win! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/24/firearms-enthusiasts-crash-gun-buyback-to-hunt-bargains/ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/24/firearms-enthusia...
        15155 11y ago
        1) Unless you hold an FFL, this is unfortunately becoming illegal in some infringed-upon jurisdictions.
        hga 11y ago
        Bleah. As far as the feds are concerned, as long as you're not "in the business", you're OK, and these buybacks tend to be rare and one offs. In practice and from their viewpoint, the first case of valuable guns is OK because there don't tend to be too many of them and there can be many different people doing this for any one buyback, in the latter case it tends to be FFLs who play that game since they can easily have a collection of junker guns they've bought but that didn't sell.

dublinben 11y ago

You're grossly misrepresenting what she actually said.

forrestthewoods 11y ago
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/16/politics/nra-hillary-clinton-guns-democrats/ http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/16/politics/nra-hillary-clinton-g... ""I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level if that could be arranged," she said in response to a question about Australia's nationwide buyback initiative that began in 1996." I, uh, would have to say that checks out?
- hga 11y ago
  As Wikipedia puts it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_buyback_program#Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_buyback_program#Australia): Unlike the voluntary buybacks in the United States, Australian buybacks of 1996 and 2003 were compulsory, compensated surrenders of particular types of firearms made illegal by new gun laws. The financial compensation was paltry; that for being converted from a citizen to a subject...?
  - semi-extrinsic 11y ago
    Your comment leads me to believe you're taking issue with the fact that weapons are made illegal, not with the actual buyback? If you agree that weapon category X (for argument's sake, let's say grenade launchers) should be made illegal, what reason would you have for opposing mandatory buyback of these now-illegal weapons? (The financial compensation in question was on average ~$550 per gun.)
    - hga 11y ago
      Yes, of course. If no coercion is involved and someone is stupid enough to exchange a valuable item for a pittance, who am I to stand in their way? One reason for the general failure of gun buybacks in the US is two responses from the gun savvy: 1) Go back a bit from the front of the line, and if you see a valuable weapon held by a noob (vs. a likely crime weapon), buy it on the spot for a lot more than what's being offered. 2) Gather up clunker weapons with values much less than the $100 or whatever they're offering and make out like a bandit.
      - forrestthewoods 11y ago
        Lots of good deal to be had at gun buy backs! Like you said. Either selling junkers for good cash or buying good guns at a good price. It's win/win! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/24/firearms-enthusiasts-crash-gun-buyback-to-hunt-bargains/ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/24/firearms-enthusia...
      - 15155 11y ago
        1) Unless you hold an FFL, this is unfortunately becoming illegal in some infringed-upon jurisdictions.
        hga 11y ago
        Bleah. As far as the feds are concerned, as long as you're not "in the business", you're OK, and these buybacks tend to be rare and one offs. In practice and from their viewpoint, the first case of valuable guns is OK because there don't tend to be too many of them and there can be many different people doing this for any one buyback, in the latter case it tends to be FFLs who play that game since they can easily have a collection of junker guns they've bought but that didn't sell.