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Amazing! Although the draft is actually of 1 Esdras and Wisdom of Solomon, part of the intertestamental Apochrypha and not found in many editions that have onl

by hcrisp 11y ago

Amazing! Although the draft is actually of 1 Esdras and Wisdom of Solomon, part of the intertestamental Apochrypha and not found in many editions that have only the New and Old Testaments. What happened to the translation drafts of the other 66 books? Does this mean we have more information on J. R. R. Tolkien's work (12 volumes) than we do of the original translators of the KJV bible (a fact that probably would have astonished and annoyed Tolkien)?

ZanyProgrammer 11y ago
The KJV originally had the deuterocanonicals, the canonical text for most of non Protestant Christendom.
pgeorgi 11y ago
There was much less time for losing Tolkien's work
baakss 11y ago
Why would that have annoyed Tolkien? He was Roman Catholic, and KJV is a protestant translation.
- protomyth 11y ago
  To add, the Vatican has the posted the text of the bible for Catholics http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/index.htm http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/index.htm
- hcrisp 11y ago
  I meant he would be dismayed more because of his love of language and ancient translation, and contrasted to the distaste of his fans' excesses. But I looked it up, and I was surprised to find that he did read the KJV. "The exact Bibles in Tolkien's library are not publicly known, but he probably used the Catholic Douay Version, as well as the Authorized (King James) Version" [1]. "Tolkien knew well the King James Bible of 1611" [2]. [1] (https://books.google.com/books?id=B0loOBA3ejIC&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63&dq=tolkien+kjv+bible&source=bl&ots=hiFE8CebWi&sig=iiI1VgQDYhhGDkDZ4Y669MUGbXw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAmoVChMI44Hus4TQyAIVTJINCh2gmgMq https://books.google.com/books?id=B0loOBA3ejIC&pg=PA63&lpg=P... [2] https://books.google.com/books?id=O5WvohegkLcC&pg=PA76&lpg=PA76&dq=tolkien+kjv+bible&source=bl&ots=L1EVV2Gg9C&sig=2F39Hlp-wSzriv3NORmxlR71IWk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDQQ6AEwBGoVChMI44Hus4TQyAIVTJINCh2gmgMq https://books.google.com/books?id=O5WvohegkLcC&pg=PA76&lpg=P...

by hcrisp 11y ago

ZanyProgrammer 11y ago

The KJV originally had the deuterocanonicals, the canonical text for most of non Protestant Christendom.

pgeorgi 11y ago

There was much less time for losing Tolkien's work

baakss 11y ago

Why would that have annoyed Tolkien? He was Roman Catholic, and KJV is a protestant translation.

protomyth 11y ago
To add, the Vatican has the posted the text of the bible for Catholics http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/index.htm http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/index.htm
hcrisp 11y ago
I meant he would be dismayed more because of his love of language and ancient translation, and contrasted to the distaste of his fans' excesses. But I looked it up, and I was surprised to find that he did read the KJV. "The exact Bibles in Tolkien's library are not publicly known, but he probably used the Catholic Douay Version, as well as the Authorized (King James) Version" [1]. "Tolkien knew well the King James Bible of 1611" [2]. [1] (https://books.google.com/books?id=B0loOBA3ejIC&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63&dq=tolkien+kjv+bible&source=bl&ots=hiFE8CebWi&sig=iiI1VgQDYhhGDkDZ4Y669MUGbXw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAmoVChMI44Hus4TQyAIVTJINCh2gmgMq https://books.google.com/books?id=B0loOBA3ejIC&pg=PA63&lpg=P... [2] https://books.google.com/books?id=O5WvohegkLcC&pg=PA76&lpg=PA76&dq=tolkien+kjv+bible&source=bl&ots=L1EVV2Gg9C&sig=2F39Hlp-wSzriv3NORmxlR71IWk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDQQ6AEwBGoVChMI44Hus4TQyAIVTJINCh2gmgMq https://books.google.com/books?id=O5WvohegkLcC&pg=PA76&lpg=P...