I think you're assuming bad faith here. Of course some people who don't want to be convinced. But I think there are many people who engage in debates and are op

I think you're assuming bad faith here. Of course some people who don't want to be convinced. But I think there are many people who engage in debates and are open to be convinced by counterarguments. Or they just joined the topic and just have naive questions. After all, it's in our interest to understand reality.