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Idris Elba is an excellent actor and I'm looking forward to watching this. I'm also hoping to see him as the next James Bond when Craig's contract runs up.

by n0us 11y ago

protomyth 11y ago
He is an amazing actor with a great range, and I'm hoping he is not the next James Bond. It would be a waste. The thought that some studio is not willing to do something original with someone like that troubles me greatly. Plus, recycling these roles with simple replacement just seems insulting. Its basically saying that there is no original thought to culture and audiences cannot accept the new.
- cbgb 11y ago
  I would hardly categorize Daniel Craig's refresh of Pierce Brosnan's Bond interpretation as "simple replacement." I think each new Bond actor has great potential to bring their own unique artistic interpretation to the role and to make it work for them.
  - protomyth 11y ago
    I would (I'm not a Daniel Craig fan and his saving grace is he got better scripts than Brosnan), and it really would be a shame if such a good actor were cast in a series that wasn't designed for him from the ground up.
    - dogma1138 11y ago
      Not sure if it's just the scripts the new bond films are much more "realistic" and gritty than the more fun and lighthearted older Bonds including those that Pierce played in. That said however Craig seem to have a much better emotional range than Brosnan, or at least he's a better type cast for the "new" bond. Brosnan kinda made that cocky can't do anything wrong thong melting bond work. But he would probably not being able to play the new bond judging by his quite poor performances in any of the serious dramas he ever had a role in.
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- jerf 11y ago
  I'm kind of willing to give the Bond franchise a pass on this front. It's been a brand, if not its own mini-genre, for longer than I've been alive. And it's not like Hollywood is performing brand necromancy on it; it's been active for a good bit of that time. It's more like Doctor Who and less like Charlie's Angels.
  - Roodgorf 11y ago
    Wow, Doctor Who is actually a fantastic comparison I had never thought of before.
    - amyjess 11y ago
      Fans of both franchises have been making this comparison for years, and one of the more famous fan theories is that Bond is a Time Lord (which is usually tongue-in-cheek... well, a little bit at least). I always like it when someone new notices the similarities :)
    - protomyth 11y ago
      Dr. Who I can see, all of the doctors have been able to put a truly unique stamp on the franchise and the situations allowed are really broad. James Bond is just the wrong vehicle, he deserves his own start at a franchise. He needs his Die Hard, not to be the next guy in the queue.
  - Apocryphon 11y ago
    Yeah, I understand that some series are perpetual because they're basically cultural institutions. We shouldn't expend extra effort to revive them if there's no current interest (such as, say, Star Trek as a TV show), but we shouldn't feel too bad if people want to keep watching them.
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ghrifter 11y ago
Looking into Craig's remaning James Bond contracts says about 2 more films after Spectre (releasing this November)[0]. Sure would be cool to have Idris as James Bond, he is an amazing actor. 0 - https://www.quora.com/How-many-more-Bond-movies-do-you-think-Daniel-Craig-has-left https://www.quora.com/How-many-more-Bond-movies-do-you-think...
- uncletaco 11y ago
  That is actually speculation that there are two more films. He's only contractually obligated to one more. But things could change.
programmernews3 11y ago
He is a good actor but why dont they give him a different super spy film? James Bond is a British spy of Scottish ancestry. It would be cultural misappropriation.
- papercrane 11y ago
  Daniel Craig is no more culturally Scottish than Idris Elba.
- uncletaco 11y ago
  Idris Elba was born, raised, and educated in England and is as entitled to play the role of James Bond as any Briton, though none of that should matter. By your logic Pierce Brosnan's (Irish) turn as Bond was an even larger case of cultural misappropriation due him not being a Briton.
  - programmernews3 11y ago
    Then why is it a big deal to have a white actress play Tiger Lily in the current Pan film? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/tiger-lily-peter-pan-native-american-stereotype http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/tiger-lily-pete... Would you have been happy with a white south African playing Nelson Mandela?
- DanBC 11y ago
  Black people first came to the British isles during the Roman occupation. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/blackhistory/ http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/blackhistory/
uncletaco 11y ago
Or Chiwetel Ejiofor. Honestly if they both end up in consideration as a replacement for Craig they should flip a coin: heads gets Bond, tails gets Blade reboot.

Idris Elba is an excellent actor and I'm looking forward to watching this. I'm also hoping to see him as the next James Bond when Craig's contract runs up.

by n0us 11y ago

Idris Elba is an excellent actor and I'm looking forward to watching this. I'm also hoping to see him as the next James Bond when Craig's contract runs up.

protomyth 11y ago

He is an amazing actor with a great range, and I'm hoping he is not the next James Bond. It would be a waste. The thought that some studio is not willing to do something original with someone like that troubles me greatly. Plus, recycling these roles with simple replacement just seems insulting. Its basically saying that there is no original thought to culture and audiences cannot accept the new.

cbgb 11y ago
I would hardly categorize Daniel Craig's refresh of Pierce Brosnan's Bond interpretation as "simple replacement." I think each new Bond actor has great potential to bring their own unique artistic interpretation to the role and to make it work for them.
- protomyth 11y ago
  I would (I'm not a Daniel Craig fan and his saving grace is he got better scripts than Brosnan), and it really would be a shame if such a good actor were cast in a series that wasn't designed for him from the ground up.
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    Not sure if it's just the scripts the new bond films are much more "realistic" and gritty than the more fun and lighthearted older Bonds including those that Pierce played in. That said however Craig seem to have a much better emotional range than Brosnan, or at least he's a better type cast for the "new" bond. Brosnan kinda made that cocky can't do anything wrong thong melting bond work. But he would probably not being able to play the new bond judging by his quite poor performances in any of the serious dramas he ever had a role in.
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jerf 11y ago
I'm kind of willing to give the Bond franchise a pass on this front. It's been a brand, if not its own mini-genre, for longer than I've been alive. And it's not like Hollywood is performing brand necromancy on it; it's been active for a good bit of that time. It's more like Doctor Who and less like Charlie's Angels.
- Roodgorf 11y ago
  Wow, Doctor Who is actually a fantastic comparison I had never thought of before.
  - amyjess 11y ago
    Fans of both franchises have been making this comparison for years, and one of the more famous fan theories is that Bond is a Time Lord (which is usually tongue-in-cheek... well, a little bit at least). I always like it when someone new notices the similarities :)
  - protomyth 11y ago
    Dr. Who I can see, all of the doctors have been able to put a truly unique stamp on the franchise and the situations allowed are really broad. James Bond is just the wrong vehicle, he deserves his own start at a franchise. He needs his Die Hard, not to be the next guy in the queue.
- Apocryphon 11y ago
  Yeah, I understand that some series are perpetual because they're basically cultural institutions. We shouldn't expend extra effort to revive them if there's no current interest (such as, say, Star Trek as a TV show), but we shouldn't feel too bad if people want to keep watching them.
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ghrifter 11y ago

Looking into Craig's remaning James Bond contracts says about 2 more films after Spectre (releasing this November)[0]. Sure would be cool to have Idris as James Bond, he is an amazing actor. 0 - https://www.quora.com/How-many-more-Bond-movies-do-you-think-Daniel-Craig-has-left https://www.quora.com/How-many-more-Bond-movies-do-you-think...

uncletaco 11y ago
That is actually speculation that there are two more films. He's only contractually obligated to one more. But things could change.

programmernews3 11y ago

He is a good actor but why dont they give him a different super spy film? James Bond is a British spy of Scottish ancestry. It would be cultural misappropriation.

papercrane 11y ago
Daniel Craig is no more culturally Scottish than Idris Elba.
uncletaco 11y ago
Idris Elba was born, raised, and educated in England and is as entitled to play the role of James Bond as any Briton, though none of that should matter. By your logic Pierce Brosnan's (Irish) turn as Bond was an even larger case of cultural misappropriation due him not being a Briton.
- programmernews3 11y ago
  Then why is it a big deal to have a white actress play Tiger Lily in the current Pan film? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/tiger-lily-peter-pan-native-american-stereotype http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/07/tiger-lily-pete... Would you have been happy with a white south African playing Nelson Mandela?
DanBC 11y ago
Black people first came to the British isles during the Roman occupation. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/blackhistory/ http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/blackhistory/

uncletaco 11y ago

Or Chiwetel Ejiofor. Honestly if they both end up in consideration as a replacement for Craig they should flip a coin: heads gets Bond, tails gets Blade reboot.