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You do realize that there is an entire IT Industry outside of Facebook and Google?

ryguytilidie 11y ago
Snark for no reason? Check. Somehow extrapolates me saying that I know lots of recruiters because I worked with recruiters at a large company means that I believe IT only exists within two companies on earth? Check. Thanks, great response.
- supercanuck 11y ago
  You are using your experience at two of of the best technology companies in the world to trash the author's criticism of the recruiting in the "IT" industry. Your comment was very tone deaf.
  - ryguytilidie 11y ago
    "You do realize that there is an entire IT Industry outside of Facebook and Google?" Was there a single fiber in your being that believed I did not...? I cannot imagine a human brain believing this is a useful post for even a single second. Yet, here you are defending it... "You are using your experience at two of of the best technology companies in the world to trash the author's criticism of the recruiting in the "IT" industry." No. I'm really not. I am a recruiter. While at Google and Facebook I met hundreds of recruiters. Since there is a world outside of these two companies (Wow! I did know that! Who knew??) almost all of us now work at other companies. At these companies, none of them behave the way the author describes. So you managed to read my post, respond with completely embarassing, useless snark because, like the author, you didn't bother to understand what you were talking about and instead just said "I have projected some extra idiotic/mean spirited behavior on this complete stranger and now I will get mad/snarky about it". If you're going to communicate with others you need to have it either be useful or pleasant. Unfortunately you seem to have fell short of both...
    - fapjacks 11y ago
      You know what's funny? You are essentially confirming everything the OP has said.
      - ryguytilidie 11y ago
        Do you have anything you want to say beyond this or are you comfortable leaving this as a completely desperate falling on your face attempt at insulting a complete stranger?
    - rnovak 11y ago
      there are literally millions of recruiters in the world. You think knowing a couple hundred means you know how they all act, or even a majority?
      - ryguytilidie 11y ago
        So let me see if I follow. It is completely rational and even considered informational to post some strawmen about 2 or 3 recruiters. HOWEVER, knowing hundreds of recruiters and talking about their actual behavior is not rational. "You think knowing a couple hundred means you know how they all act, or even a majority?" I...what? Are we just coming up with the dumbest, most obtuse questions possible? Again, what shred of your being believes I think this in any way whatsoever?
        rnovak 11y ago
        Your statements literally say that. "I know hundreds of recruiters". That's literally what YOU SAID. That's not dumb, or obtuse. You also imply that just because none of those people act like that, that the ENTIRE industry must be the same. It's getting really difficult to not be offended at some of what you're saying. I'm WASPY as they come and your arguments are so privileged it's not even funny.
        ryguytilidie 11y ago
dang 11y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10399372 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10399372 and marked it off-topic.
- ryguytilidie 11y ago
  I'm confused. Writing a long, mean spirited rant about millions of faceless strangers is totally okay, but saying "I know lots of these strangers and I think the opposite is true" in the comments section is off topic? Soooo are we at a spot where its 100% ok to rip millions of strangers, but the second someone disagrees a mod gets upset and starts editing the discussion? This is bizarre.
  - dang 11y ago
    > the second someone disagrees a mod gets upset That's quite the understatement. You posted close to two dozen indignant comments in a single thread, crossing repeatedly into incivility. That's an abuse of HN by any standard, regardless of how flawed the article and the other comments were.
    - ryguytilidie 11y ago
      So, to be clear, since you never had a single problem with ANYONE shitting on an entire profession. "Crossing repeatedly into incivility" is something youre offended by only when its not being done toward an engineer. Just trying to figure out the logic behind being okay with the literal hundreds of negative comments about an entire profession in this thread but being super duper upset for me being not that polite in response. Is there logic here or was this just a bit of a tantrum on your part? Perhaps we should have some disclaimer like "feel free to shit on other professions, but if you DARE respond to those posts, fuck you."?

Snark for no reason? Check. Somehow extrapolates me saying that I know lots of recruiters because I worked with recruiters at a large company means that I believe IT only exists within two companies on earth? Check. Thanks, great response.

supercanuck 11y ago
You are using your experience at two of of the best technology companies in the world to trash the author's criticism of the recruiting in the "IT" industry. Your comment was very tone deaf.
- ryguytilidie 11y ago
  "You do realize that there is an entire IT Industry outside of Facebook and Google?" Was there a single fiber in your being that believed I did not...? I cannot imagine a human brain believing this is a useful post for even a single second. Yet, here you are defending it... "You are using your experience at two of of the best technology companies in the world to trash the author's criticism of the recruiting in the "IT" industry." No. I'm really not. I am a recruiter. While at Google and Facebook I met hundreds of recruiters. Since there is a world outside of these two companies (Wow! I did know that! Who knew??) almost all of us now work at other companies. At these companies, none of them behave the way the author describes. So you managed to read my post, respond with completely embarassing, useless snark because, like the author, you didn't bother to understand what you were talking about and instead just said "I have projected some extra idiotic/mean spirited behavior on this complete stranger and now I will get mad/snarky about it". If you're going to communicate with others you need to have it either be useful or pleasant. Unfortunately you seem to have fell short of both...
  - fapjacks 11y ago
    You know what's funny? You are essentially confirming everything the OP has said.
    - ryguytilidie 11y ago
      Do you have anything you want to say beyond this or are you comfortable leaving this as a completely desperate falling on your face attempt at insulting a complete stranger?
  - rnovak 11y ago
    there are literally millions of recruiters in the world. You think knowing a couple hundred means you know how they all act, or even a majority?
    - ryguytilidie 11y ago
      So let me see if I follow. It is completely rational and even considered informational to post some strawmen about 2 or 3 recruiters. HOWEVER, knowing hundreds of recruiters and talking about their actual behavior is not rational. "You think knowing a couple hundred means you know how they all act, or even a majority?" I...what? Are we just coming up with the dumbest, most obtuse questions possible? Again, what shred of your being believes I think this in any way whatsoever?
      - rnovak 11y ago
        Your statements literally say that. "I know hundreds of recruiters". That's literally what YOU SAID. That's not dumb, or obtuse. You also imply that just because none of those people act like that, that the ENTIRE industry must be the same. It's getting really difficult to not be offended at some of what you're saying. I'm WASPY as they come and your arguments are so privileged it's not even funny.
        ryguytilidie 11y ago

dang 11y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10399372 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10399372 and marked it off-topic.

ryguytilidie 11y ago
I'm confused. Writing a long, mean spirited rant about millions of faceless strangers is totally okay, but saying "I know lots of these strangers and I think the opposite is true" in the comments section is off topic? Soooo are we at a spot where its 100% ok to rip millions of strangers, but the second someone disagrees a mod gets upset and starts editing the discussion? This is bizarre.
- dang 11y ago
  > the second someone disagrees a mod gets upset That's quite the understatement. You posted close to two dozen indignant comments in a single thread, crossing repeatedly into incivility. That's an abuse of HN by any standard, regardless of how flawed the article and the other comments were.
  - ryguytilidie 11y ago
    So, to be clear, since you never had a single problem with ANYONE shitting on an entire profession. "Crossing repeatedly into incivility" is something youre offended by only when its not being done toward an engineer. Just trying to figure out the logic behind being okay with the literal hundreds of negative comments about an entire profession in this thread but being super duper upset for me being not that polite in response. Is there logic here or was this just a bit of a tantrum on your part? Perhaps we should have some disclaimer like "feel free to shit on other professions, but if you DARE respond to those posts, fuck you."?