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Adding more details (the book's publisher did not have rights to sell that edition; customers were refunded) does not change the key message being communicated:

Adding more details (the book's publisher did not have rights to sell that edition; customers were refunded) does not change the key message being communicated: Amazon removed books that had been purchased in good faith from Kindles without the purchasers' involvement or consent. That's something Amazon could do (and still can) that would not be possible to do with paper books or ebooks that were not purchased through Kindles or other devices that are not directly connected to the Internet. Not without some sort of massive intrusive recall effort anyway. Having said that, this article is quite straw-manny. I've an ebook reader that I cannot connect to the Internet, and I use it daily. For books that I purchase, I still need to do so electronically, and that usually requires identification (through PayPal or credit card). I have no problems with ebooks in general, though; not every ebook format or reader grants the same access to the vendor, and it's not that difficult to vote with your feet.

jordigh 11y ago
> I've an ebook reader that I cannot connect to the Internet, and I use it daily. I don't think you're "fairly typical" in this regard, nor is most of the HN user base. Most people are doing what Amazon publishes as "most convenient", which is internet-enabled e-readers with all of Amazon's restrictions.
- jeremysmyth 11y ago
  Very true. The same is also true in other situations where the dominant player creates a "walled garden"[1] over which they have complete control, as with Apple (although in that regard, I expect much of the HN user base is happy to be subjected to the joys of that particular walled garden). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_platform https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_platform
  - masklinn 11y ago
    > The same is also true in other situations where the dominant player creates a "walled garden"[1] over which they have complete control, as with Apple It's somewhat unclear what you mean, especially with apple having added sideloading support in Xcode 7/iOS9.

jordigh 11y ago

> I've an ebook reader that I cannot connect to the Internet, and I use it daily. I don't think you're "fairly typical" in this regard, nor is most of the HN user base. Most people are doing what Amazon publishes as "most convenient", which is internet-enabled e-readers with all of Amazon's restrictions.

jeremysmyth 11y ago
Very true. The same is also true in other situations where the dominant player creates a "walled garden"[1] over which they have complete control, as with Apple (although in that regard, I expect much of the HN user base is happy to be subjected to the joys of that particular walled garden). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_platform https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_platform
- masklinn 11y ago
  > The same is also true in other situations where the dominant player creates a "walled garden"[1] over which they have complete control, as with Apple It's somewhat unclear what you mean, especially with apple having added sideloading support in Xcode 7/iOS9.