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> that right there is pure neglect for the value of human life What value? If you believe in God and think that people were created in his image, then human l

> that right there is pure neglect for the value of human life What value? If you believe in God and think that people were created in his image, then human life does have value independent of what anyone thinks. But, if you're not a believer, then people are just self-deluded carbon-based life forms with limited lifespans on some tiny rock in a vast universe with 100s of billions of galaxies and 100 of billions of stars in each of those. > Sex is not necessary for you to survive. Of course not. That is not what I wrote. The question is why you would value survival instead of reproduction. If reproduction is the basic, biological goal, then it should have more value than survival. - For example, the goal of working for the most part is to get the money. Since you like Basic Income, you would say that people should get the goal(money-basic income) and skip the work. - What I say is that people make money for the most part to find a partner and reproduce. So, using your reasoning, since the goal is reproduction, then they should get that goal(dating-sex-reproduction) and skip the money. Get it?

cbd1984 11y ago
Ah, you're an anti-atheist using a stupid strawman to attempt to argue against the idea that morality can have a source other than divine commands. Most religious people aren't as stupid as you seem to be, so I doubt you'll find much buy-in for your arguments here. http://www.iep.utm.edu/divine-c/ http://www.iep.utm.edu/divine-c/
- not-humanist 11y ago
  You're a total manipulator. First, you don't provide a definition of morality. You could say: "I have a dog named 'Morality', so it's possible that the source of morality is something other than divine commands". What is your view of morality? Second, you don't provide an argument for how it's possible that human life can have intrinsic value(independent of cultural of personal preferences). BTW, I'm a non-theist and a moral nihilist.
  - kaonashi 11y ago
    The ideology of the free rider.
    - not-humanist 11y ago
      Is that supposed to be an argument? Ideology is a set of beliefs or preferences. Therefore, since morality is a set of preferences and beliefs, it is an ideology or mass delusion. Moral Nihilism is a position based on acknowledging the truth that morality is illusory and used to manipulate people into submission.
      - kaonashi 11y ago
        No, it's supposed to be a dismissal.

cbd1984 11y ago

Ah, you're an anti-atheist using a stupid strawman to attempt to argue against the idea that morality can have a source other than divine commands. Most religious people aren't as stupid as you seem to be, so I doubt you'll find much buy-in for your arguments here. http://www.iep.utm.edu/divine-c/ http://www.iep.utm.edu/divine-c/

not-humanist 11y ago
You're a total manipulator. First, you don't provide a definition of morality. You could say: "I have a dog named 'Morality', so it's possible that the source of morality is something other than divine commands". What is your view of morality? Second, you don't provide an argument for how it's possible that human life can have intrinsic value(independent of cultural of personal preferences). BTW, I'm a non-theist and a moral nihilist.
- kaonashi 11y ago
  The ideology of the free rider.
  - not-humanist 11y ago
    Is that supposed to be an argument? Ideology is a set of beliefs or preferences. Therefore, since morality is a set of preferences and beliefs, it is an ideology or mass delusion. Moral Nihilism is a position based on acknowledging the truth that morality is illusory and used to manipulate people into submission.
    - kaonashi 11y ago
      No, it's supposed to be a dismissal.