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Windows 10 upgrades getting aggressive

14 points by SQL2219 11y ago

mtgx 11y ago
Microsoft needs to keep bragging how Windows 10 is "growing", and likely that growth has stalled lately, so they're becoming more aggressive about pushing it. Also, despite any sort of Windows 10 "growth", PC sales have been down by about 10% for the past two quarters. Maybe it's time for OEMs to look elsewhere.
krapp 11y ago
It's obviously not optional in the long run. At some point Microsoft will force an upgrade on every Windows machine they can. You'll just wake up one day and be using Windows 10 whether you like it or not.
- TrevorJ 11y ago
  They might be able to get away with that with consumers, but a lot of professionals use Windows too, MS would get sued every way to Sunday if they pulled a stunt like that.
makecheck 11y ago
Simply put, this is not OK. Microsoft has no idea what your situation is. They cannot possibly predict what the effect of the upgrade will be, no matter how good a job they think they did with Windows 10. What if you depend on some program to do your job and the "upgrade" messes it up irreversibly? What if you're a student with a project due in two weeks and suddenly you're unable to open something after the "upgrade"? What if you're in some kind of managed environment that doesn't expect the "upgrade", that is then utterly confused afterwards (perhaps even trying to downgrade your software again)? I'm sure these aren't the only scenarios that could see big problems. If they're so desperate to make people upgrade, they should at least have had the decency to pull an Apple and ship an entire compatibility-VM with their new OS (like Mac OS X 10.0 did) to minimize the chance of a problem.
- Terr_ 11y ago
  > If they're so desperate to make people upgrade, they should at least have had the decency to pull an Apple and ship an entire compatibility-VM with their new OS (like Mac OS X 10.0 did) to minimize the chance of a problem. I'm not sure how that'd work when it comes to hardware/drivers. For example, I know somebody with a transcription foot-pedal (USB) that just isn't compatible with newer versions of Windows.
- TrevorJ 11y ago
  I have ZERO patience for this type of behavior in a product aimed at professionals. I use Win 7 professional to do my work. I have a specific set of software that I use, and no intention of changing anything about a setup that is tuned and works well for me. As far as I'm concerned, a product that I paid for which suddenly tries to hold me hostage like this has turned actively hostile.

14 points by SQL2219 11y ago

mtgx 11y ago

Microsoft needs to keep bragging how Windows 10 is "growing", and likely that growth has stalled lately, so they're becoming more aggressive about pushing it. Also, despite any sort of Windows 10 "growth", PC sales have been down by about 10% for the past two quarters. Maybe it's time for OEMs to look elsewhere.

krapp 11y ago

It's obviously not optional in the long run. At some point Microsoft will force an upgrade on every Windows machine they can. You'll just wake up one day and be using Windows 10 whether you like it or not.

TrevorJ 11y ago
They might be able to get away with that with consumers, but a lot of professionals use Windows too, MS would get sued every way to Sunday if they pulled a stunt like that.

makecheck 11y ago

Simply put, this is not OK. Microsoft has no idea what your situation is. They cannot possibly predict what the effect of the upgrade will be, no matter how good a job they think they did with Windows 10. What if you depend on some program to do your job and the "upgrade" messes it up irreversibly? What if you're a student with a project due in two weeks and suddenly you're unable to open something after the "upgrade"? What if you're in some kind of managed environment that doesn't expect the "upgrade", that is then utterly confused afterwards (perhaps even trying to downgrade your software again)? I'm sure these aren't the only scenarios that could see big problems. If they're so desperate to make people upgrade, they should at least have had the decency to pull an Apple and ship an entire compatibility-VM with their new OS (like Mac OS X 10.0 did) to minimize the chance of a problem.

Terr_ 11y ago
> If they're so desperate to make people upgrade, they should at least have had the decency to pull an Apple and ship an entire compatibility-VM with their new OS (like Mac OS X 10.0 did) to minimize the chance of a problem. I'm not sure how that'd work when it comes to hardware/drivers. For example, I know somebody with a transcription foot-pedal (USB) that just isn't compatible with newer versions of Windows.
TrevorJ 11y ago
I have ZERO patience for this type of behavior in a product aimed at professionals. I use Win 7 professional to do my work. I have a specific set of software that I use, and no intention of changing anything about a setup that is tuned and works well for me. As far as I'm concerned, a product that I paid for which suddenly tries to hold me hostage like this has turned actively hostile.